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to: Rich Gauszka
from: George Sherwood
date: 2006-01-28 17:49:34
subject: Re: Pentagon Study - Army stretched to breaking point

From: George Sherwood 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:42:58 -0500, Rich Gauszka wrote:

>
> "George Sherwood"  wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.01.28.22.35.12.730041{at}beernabeer.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:09:50 -0500, Rich Gauszka wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "George Sherwood" 
wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.01.28.21.58.20.408609{at}beernabeer.com...
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:43:12 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Most that I
>>>>>> signed off on were about $20-25K and usually for a
3 year enlistment.
>>>>>
>>>>> $25K is a hell of a lot more than I've ever got in a 3
year period out
>>>>> here
>>>>> in private industry...  (I'm an IT Manager.)
>>>>
>>>> And how many 6 months deployments have you made over that 6 month
>>>> period?
>>>> Are you telling me they don't deserve it?
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>
>>> Oh absolutely they deserve it. Sso do those with over 14 years that are
>>> excluded
>>
>> I agree since all my type of incentives have gone way done.
  I never
>> said they weren't used as incentives because they are.  Unfortunately once
>> you have that 14 year mark, the retirement becomes the incentive.  I
>> certainly wish it was different.  Most of this stuff is targeted at the
>> 6-12 year folks.  Those that are at the point they need to think about a
>> career in military or somewhere else.
>>
>> George
>
> While the retirement mark becomes the incentive for those over 14 years I
> thought there were quite a few that were screwed out of even that when the
> military last downsized in the 90s.  I also wish it were different

Not really at that mark.  We mostly lost guys about the 6-7 mark.  I hated
it.  It was done really badly.  For officers only based on whether you were
a USN or USNR.  That way the administration could claim there was no
Reduction in Force (RIF).  Although if you are a USNR who is told his
services are no longer needed, it feels alot like a RIF.  He could be my
number 1 guy, but if USNR he was gone.  Stupid.

Only large group of people that I know that got out in the 12-14 year range
did so with large separation bonuses. Many of them had other plans and
thought the separation money and the new job could make up for the
retirement.  I don't didn't work out so well for those that went to the
airlines.  Others no idea.

George

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