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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Mark
date: 2006-02-01 23:14:40
subject: Re: Yay for the French!!!!

From: "Mark" 

Sorry if I was fuzzy, but your reply seems to employ circular logic 

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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> Can you be a bit less nebulous about your campus rant? The problem isn't
> in the desire to contain 'hate' speech but in what some say constitutes
> it.
>
>
> If you are talking about
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>>I was serious Rich, all this "hate" speech containment
shit they've got
>>going on, on our campuses is no different than shutting down these
>>cartoons, different people complaining, but the same frigging sad sack
>>ideology behind it, i.e. "we" don't like it,
"you" can't do it and sure
>>enough everyone folds like a cheap suit.
>>
>> The president of Harvard, had he any balls, should have fired that lame
>> complaining chick that calls herself a professor. > containment appeasing union would have had his head, but at least he'd
>> still have his balls and the campus could actually talk instead of cower
>> to their inanity>
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:43e17d18$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Just make sure your paper's owner isn't from a Moslem controlled country
>>> before you run the cartoons. Sounds like the owner is in CYA mode
>>>
>>> "The owner of France Soir, an Egyptian, Raymond Lakah,
said he fired
>>> LeFranc to demonstrate "respect for the intimate beliefs of an
>>> individual" - apparently a reference to religious beliefs."
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43e171eb{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Apparently the owner of that paper fired the editor that made the
>>>> decision to run the cartoons and made a groveling apology to anyone,
>>>> anywhere that was at any time offended.
>>>>
>>>> That said, it occurs to me that the president of Harvard
and students
>>>> and faculty on campuses across America have already given
up with their
>>>> misadventures into "hate speech" tenets within
their little fiefdoms.
>>>>
>>>> We've already lost. Buy the prayer mats or die. >>> Alito can still save us, but it's doubtful>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:43e0c296{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/01/france.cartoon.ap/
>>>>>
>>>>> PARIS, France (AP) -- A French newspaper on Wednesday
republished
>>>>> caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad that caused uproar
in the Muslim
>>>>> world when they were printed in a Danish daily, saying
that religious
>>>>> dogma has no place in a secular society.
>>>>>
>>>>> The drawings, first printed September 30 in Danish newspaper
>>>>> Jyllands-Posten and reprinted in a Norwegian magazine
last month,
>>>>> sparked boycotts and demonstrations against Denmark
throughout the
>>>>> Muslim world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the prophet to prevent
>>>>> idolatry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The front page of the daily France Soir on Wednesday carried the
>>>>> headline "Yes, We Have the Right to Caricature
God" and a cartoon of
>>>>> Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim and Christian gods floating on a cloud.
>>>>> Inside, the paper reran the drawings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Germany's Welt daily also printed one of the drawings
on its front
>>>>> page on Wednesday, arguing that a "right to
blasphemy" was anchored in
>>>>> democratic freedoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The appearance of the 12 drawings in the Danish
press provoked
>>>>> emotions in the Muslim world because the
representation of Allah and
>>>>> his prophet is forbidden. But because no religious
dogma can impose
>>>>> itself on a democratic and secular society, France
Soir is publishing
>>>>> the incriminating caricatures," France Soir said.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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