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to: Mark
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-02-01 23:08:28
subject: Re: Yay for the French!!!!

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

Can you be a bit less nebulous about your campus rant? The problem isn't in
the desire to contain 'hate' speech but in what some say constitutes it.


If you are talking about
"Mark"  wrote in message
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>I was serious Rich, all this "hate" speech containment shit they've got
>going on, on our campuses is no different than shutting down these
>cartoons, different people complaining, but the same frigging sad sack
>ideology behind it, i.e. "we" don't like it, "you"
can't do it and sure
>enough everyone folds like a cheap suit.
>
> The president of Harvard, had he any balls, should have fired that lame
> complaining chick that calls herself a professor.  containment appeasing union would have had his head, but at least he'd
> still have his balls and the campus could actually talk instead of cower
> to their inanity>
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:43e17d18$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Just make sure your paper's owner isn't from a Moslem controlled country
>> before you run the cartoons. Sounds like the owner is in CYA mode
>>
>> "The owner of France Soir, an Egyptian, Raymond Lakah, said he fired
>> LeFranc to demonstrate "respect for the intimate beliefs of an
>> individual" - apparently a reference to religious beliefs."
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43e171eb{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Apparently the owner of that paper fired the editor that made the
>>> decision to run the cartoons and made a groveling apology to anyone,
>>> anywhere that was at any time offended.
>>>
>>> That said, it occurs to me that the president of Harvard and students
>>> and faculty on campuses across America have already given up with their
>>> misadventures into "hate speech" tenets within their
little fiefdoms.
>>>
>>> We've already lost. Buy the prayer mats or die. >> can still save us, but it's doubtful>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:43e0c296{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>> http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/01/france.cartoon.ap/
>>>>
>>>> PARIS, France (AP) -- A French newspaper on Wednesday republished
>>>> caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad that caused uproar in the Muslim
>>>> world when they were printed in a Danish daily, saying
that religious
>>>> dogma has no place in a secular society.
>>>>
>>>> The drawings, first printed September 30 in Danish newspaper
>>>> Jyllands-Posten and reprinted in a Norwegian magazine last month,
>>>> sparked boycotts and demonstrations against Denmark throughout the
>>>> Muslim world.
>>>>
>>>> Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the prophet to prevent
>>>> idolatry.
>>>>
>>>> The front page of the daily France Soir on Wednesday carried the
>>>> headline "Yes, We Have the Right to Caricature
God" and a cartoon of
>>>> Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim and Christian gods floating on a cloud.
>>>> Inside, the paper reran the drawings.
>>>>
>>>> Germany's Welt daily also printed one of the drawings on
its front page
>>>> on Wednesday, arguing that a "right to
blasphemy" was anchored in
>>>> democratic freedoms.
>>>>
>>>> "The appearance of the 12 drawings in the Danish press provoked
>>>> emotions in the Muslim world because the representation of Allah and
>>>> his prophet is forbidden. But because no religious dogma can impose
>>>> itself on a democratic and secular society, France Soir is
publishing
>>>> the incriminating caricatures," France Soir said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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