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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-01-28 20:57:22
subject: Re: Pentagon Study - Army stretched to breaking point

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

I was glad to see that the higher rates of reenlistment bonuses for the
Army were to those whose asses were on the line at least

MOSs with the highest caps ( $40,000)
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/bonus/blarreenlistmentbonus4.htm
( infantry, special forces and counter intellgence )


MOS fields lookup

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/arjobs.htm


"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:43dc14b7{at}w3.nls.net...
>I wasn't objecting to the pay, just the idea that it was to be competitive
>with private industry.
>
> Lets face it, it's a "bribe" to keep putting their asses on
the line and
> I'm fine with that.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:43dbfa8b{at}w3.nls.net...
>>I always remind myself that for those in the Army at least, their
>>secondary MOS is rifleman and begrudge them not.
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:43dbf83c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> You really don't understand what it is like and have no idea what is
>>>> their base pay when you talk about competitive.
>>>
>>> Actually, I do, I'm the son of an Air Force guy who has lots of
>>> relatives in other branches of the military, and you know what, they
>>> *all* went into the military because it was the only way to get out of
>>> the coal mines of West Virginia and to make a livable wage, so in their
>>> case, not only was the pay competitive, it was better than private
>>> industry. (as it is with a lot of people, probably most)
>>>
>>>>It is only used in rates that are
>>>> very technical and have long schools.
>>>
>>> Kind of like my specialty you mean?  (I was comparing my specialty and
>>> work situation, so it's a given that I would be comparing myself to the
>>> same in the military.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "George Sherwood" 
wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.01.28.22.20.21.55161{at}beernabeer.com...
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:12:13 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And how many 6 months deployments have you made
over that 6 month
>>>>>> period?
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 months worth, I'm on call 24x7x365, not to mention
being in the
>>>>> office
>>>>> most of the time and working from home a LOT too.
>>>>
>>>> When I was 6 months overseas, I would have loved to be
working from my
>>>> home.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you telling me they don't deserve it?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you compare it to private industry, then no, they
don't.  You were
>>>>> the
>>>>> one that brought up that they got it to be competitive...
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether they deserve it or not really doesn't matter,
they wouldn't be
>>>>> getting as many re-ups without it.
>>>>
>>>> You really don't understand what it is like and have no idea what is
>>>> their base pay when you talk about competitive. And you really don't
>>>> understand how few guys get this bonus. It is only used in
rates that
>>>> are
>>>> very technical and have long schools. Out of my two year
command tour
>>>> with
>>>> probably 30 re-enlistments, probably 5 or 6 got checks and
this is in
>>>> an
>>>> aviation command.  Ships would be less and subs probably more.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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