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to: Scott Adams
from: Dennis Haddox
date: 2003-06-24 21:59:00
subject: Re: Facts or Fiction

-=> Scott Adams wrote to Dennis Haddox <=-
 
Part I
 
 SA>         First let me start this by saying me and you dpearted
 SA> the
 SA>         ways relatively easy going and straight forward.  I
 SA> even
 SA>         as far as a couple months ago ICQed you to say hi and
 SA> such
 SA>         and you were cordial.    I enjoyed your stay In
 SA> AdventureNet
 SA>         as a poster above all else.  I was saddened to see you
 SA> leave.
 
Thanks Scott, I have nothing against you. It is not your fault
that your fault that you turned over the reigns of your games
to a blundering idiot.
 
 SA>         Up to this point I actually had some thought deep in
 SA> the
 SA>         back of my head that you may be right on the cheating
 SA> before
 SA>         but then I see your posts attacking 3 or 4 leagues
 SA> here.
 
Your admission of the possibility of me being right shows
me that you are at least intelligent enough to realize that.
Including all 3 leagues in my outrage on allowing this cheating
to go on and the way the LC's handle it has been brewing for
quite a long time now. The first league that I experienced
this was the one that Hoover runs and that has been quite
a while ago hasn't it? I have been a rebel against cheaters for
a long time now and nothing ever changes. The cheating
goes on and the LC reacts to the charges in the same fashion.
This most recent escapade was apparently the final amount
of pressure needed before the volcano erupted.
 
 SA>         I've been doing bbsing and sysoping for over 18 years.
 SA>         I've seen it all and heard it all folks just like you
 SA> come
 SA>         and go all the time.  Its not even funny anymore.
 SA>         I've run EWOG II now for 10 years (6/1/03 was year 10)
 SA>         and ran AdventureNet for 10 years (this coming
 SA> september).
 SA>         I ran EWOG I for some 6-7 years before that with other
 SA> leagues
 SA>         in those very early days of bbsdom.
 
 SA>         I know what I'm doing and being a programmer also
 SA> believe
 SA>         I am qualified enough to know the technics of problems
 SA> with
 SA>         cheating and such.  I can examine patterns and analyze
 SA> situations.
 
 SA>         You may not think so but i have the experience to back
 SA> up
 SA>         my statements, do you?
 
Yes Scott, I have as much experience as you do. The only
difference is that I have never taken much of an interest in
programming. My end has been hardware and software
configurations. If any programming troubleshooting needed
done, I always let my oldest son do that since that is what
he was interested in.
 
 SA>         Yes your a sysop for many years but where is your game
 SA> league?
 SA>         You say you have better things to do?  Fine.  You have
 SA> time
 SA>         to yell at folks though.  I contend before you accuse
 SA> folks
 SA>         of things you run your OWN network and your OWN game
 SA> league.
 
I have too many things to do. I barely have enough time to keep
the bbs current. I don't think that running my own league would
make much of a difference anyway. We have discussed in the
past how I would do it if it were up to me. You know I am
fairly radical and said the ways I suggested were too strict.
I didn't think so but I guess we will never know because I have
no desire to run a league and those that do, don't have the balls.
 
 SA>         Michael Frater was a good member just like you.  He
 SA> claimed
 
I do not wish to rehash the Michael Frater scenario. You and Mark
had said that you had thoroughly investigated that allegation and
could find no wrongdoing. I believed you and the way Michael
had no rebuttal on your findings led me to believe that perhaps
he did not have a valid claim.
Anyway, what was involved in that and what was involved in
the case that I had pointed out were totally different.
 
 SA>         us and the evidence at hand.  How does it look when his
 SA> son
 SA>         adn others from his own board seem to oddly have the
 SA> same
 SA>         period of plays and attacks and even in some cases same
 SA>         "style" of messages.  Hmmm...is this multiple accounts
 SA>         from the same person.  I personally think there might
 SA> have
 SA>         been.  Could I prove it?  Not really.
 
No, you can't prove anything by that type of conjecture.
 
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