From: stumper 

Ray Fischer wrote:
> stumper   wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007
10:04:09 -0400, stumper
 in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not all
things in the world are physical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many
things are way beyond our comprehension.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God might
be be one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But probably
not.  Especially since you don't even know what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by
the term "God".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God might
not be not something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
proved or even understood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The race is
not always to the swift nor the battle to the
strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's the
way to bet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if God is the
universe and some more?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we prove
that the universe exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if God is
everything there ever was,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever is, and ever will be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we prove
that such God exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if none of that is true?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, such God exists by definition.
>>>>>>>>>>> Logical fallacy: Assuming the
conclusion.
>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think you exist?
>>>>>>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>>>>>>> What makes you think the universe exists?
>>>>>>> I don't care if it exists, wanker.  It's a
useful working hypothesis
>>>>>>> to assume that it does.
>>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes you think your self exists?
>>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>>> Do you believe in your government?
>>> Are you stupid?
>> How do you know that your government even exists?
>
> How do you know your god exists?
>
> Actually, I know the question to that, even if you do not.
>

Does your government exist by definition? If not, what are the evidences
for its existence?

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~Stumper

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