LG>LG>KK> Interestingly, one way the creationists have been trying to get
LG>LG>KK> creationism taught in science classes is by arguing that 
scientism'
LG>LG>KK> and 'humanism' are religions and therefore on a par with 
creationism.
LG>LG>KK> If you are planning on using the above dictionary definition as an
LG>LG>KK> authority, you might want to note that according to it, nothing in
LG>LG>KK> science or humanism is religion.
LG>LG> And interestingly enough, in Funk and Wagnalls Standard Desk 
Dictionary,
LG>LG> humanism is defined as "a system or attitude in thought, religion, 
etc.,
LG>LG> in which human ideals and the perfection of personality are made 
central"
LG>KK> It could be argued that the development of human political thought
LG>KK> over the last 10,000 years is the development of the concept of
LG>KK> the individual.  People in many Stone-Age tribes of today do not
LG>KK> feel themselves to be individuals but rather fractions of the tribe.
LG>KK> In that sense, the US Constitution is the greatest and also the
LG>KK> most radical document in human history, becuase it defines
LG>KK> government as the consent of the governed, or the will of the
LG> KK> people.  AFAIK it is the first document in history to state that
LG>KK> Government does not inhere in a father-figure or an alpha male.
LG>We now at least know that you know how to keep your rope lighted and 
drawing
LG>well.
LG>You posted that "nothing in...humanism is religion". I merely pointed out
LG>to you before you went into *this* rambling piece of work that the
LG>dictionary definition of humnanism is a "system of...religion". See it 
ent
LG>quite over your head.
You might want to read your Funk and Wagnall's again.  Humanism was
there defined as a system or attitude that may be held by some within
a religion.  It does not follow that humanism is a system of religion.
If you had followed the thred just one post earlier, you would have
seen that Mr Plett posted a dictionary definition of religion from the
year 1828 or '29.  That definition stated that if a system of thought
does not involve God, it is not religion.  I pointed out to Mr Plett
that if he intended to use that quote as an authority, he might want
to know that it directly disagrees with the religious right's claim
that humanism is a religion.
LG>KK> Disoportunadamente, we humans seem to have the ability to make
LG>KK> an ideology (religion) out of whatever belief we absorbed at
LG>KK> the age of about 4 or 5.  After that, we don't think it's
LG>KK> 'religion' or 'belief,' we think it's 'reality.'
LG>And I think you took yet another toke on the rope. The above was (though
LG>admittedly of a mild nature) sarcasm. Guess it was lost on you.
You have just implied that because I do not agree with your beliefs,
therefore I must be consuming an illegal substance.  If I am not
mistaken, the correct term for this is arguing 'ad hominem.'
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