>   Cyberpope wrote --

 > > I doubt it gets shovedover to someone else; most of what's dropped is
 > > bloat/markup, not actual costs of operations/staff. 
 >  
 >    I think it falls into the catch-all "business expenses", the same
 > category a lot of stuff falls into such as stationary, etc.

Nash, lots of gratuitous markup -- you cannot justify $10 per single Q-
Tip(swab) on costs alone. & I've personally witnessed this kind of marking up.

Can't do that in Canmada, as you'd be stealing from the government, & they HATE
 competition!

 > >  >   (I like to joke that I'm the last person to admit I'm wrong about
 > >  > something).

 > > I thought I was wrong once. . . but I was mistaken 

 >   Same here.  :)

I heard a comic explain that when older folk are wrong, they're still more
correct than the young person who's 'right.' because their so-called wrong
answer is based on years of experience & observation.

 > >>   At one time, don't know if its still done, a portion of a persons wages
 > could be taken, by law, to pay a debt by garnishment.

 > > Depends on jurisdiction; AFAIK, most require a court order,

 >   Usually its the creditors lawyers who goes to court for the order.
 >   Creditors already usually have all the information they need (bank
 > account number, address, etc) and sort of semi-automatically done.
 >   One gets a letter X amount will be taken from ones pay cheque on a given
 > day each month.  So it is written, so it is done to coin a phrase.

More like the creditor(bank) has given up & bu8lk sells a bunch of cold debts
by auction & a law firm buys it & sets the newbies to work on it for strictly
commission.

 >   I try and teach the basics of the job, then give them the freedom to make
 > their own decisions.

Perfect! I'll not have anyone below me that I haven't cnfirmed to be capable of
learning & thinking.  I only work for bosses who think like that, because they
quickly hire me.

 >   I will also tell them while the manual says X about something, there
 > could be times its done differently, depending on the circumstances.

Of course, & don't waste your time by calling to ask abourt circuymstance x not
covered the manual because you're not in the spot getting paid to solve it,
they are!

Or as my boss lamemnted to me about a coworker: "Why am I paying THEM, if I
have to wake up & do the work myself?"

I couldn't disagree & soon enough the other went walking. . .

 >   Example: all cars parked on a non-cash pay lot (meters, pay garage, etc)
 > need a permit which is visible. But at times they are partly covered for any
 > number of reasons.  Provided one is able to tell the permit is valid for
 > that area and not expired, that's 
 >   I.E., use a little common sense.

You'd never have had to tell me this, as I was fortunate to have common sense
bequeathed(while alive) to me by a father who understood it & used it.

 >   In the mid-70s I worked for a new/used car dealer.
 >   There was a policy if a salesman sold a car to someone they "owned" the
 > entire family.  If they sold a car to someone in 1950 they sold to every one
 > in that family forever.  
 >   The salesmen took turns on pouncing on, uh, assisting, perspective
 > customers.  At times some hot prospect would walk unto the lot and the old
 > timers
 > would say "That's my customer, I sold his fifth cousin, three times removed,
 > a car in 1951" and take off aft
 >   Thus it was rough on newbies to make a living.

No kidding, but you gotta figure a way to beat this or you'll flounder & give
up.

Me, I'd prolly go drum up new business that'l come in asking only for me.

 >   (I liked selling used cars over new cars.  The main reason being with a
 > new car the customer would want a different colour, different options, etc
 > and time would be spent either trying to find a car like that and lots of
 > time on the phone with other dealers
 >   (With a used car it was "There it is, take it or leave it".)  :)

Makes sense, but I guess with new, you get a huge list of extras you can add on
for bigger commissions, eh, as well as the higher sale price.

 > > If you add more & more responsibilities to a person's position, eventually
 > > you'll overwhelm them

 >   That is when (where possible) delegation comes into the picture.

Yup, & that's critical to keeping on at one's current, comfortable, preferred
position. All my boss cars is that the job is done & profits came in as a
result of work with my name/department on it. (more is better, natch!)

 >   I am what I like to call "the sweet spot".  I have rank and seniority and
 > being retired I still have that on a post but none of the responsibility.
 > :)

So you formnally retired then went back, part-time?

Do you keep your full pension?

 > > Children should fail often & sometimes miserably!

 >   Failure is part of life and the learning process.
 >   The only time someone really fails is if when they fall they just lay
 > there and not get up, dust themselves off, and start over again.

Exactly.

As I say, "Those who say 'I can't,' but never tried, have lied."


 > > If you've never failed, you've never tried 

 >   Totally agree!

As I would expecrt from the mod of a "Memories" echo! *G*

Your friend,

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Cyberpope, Bishop of ROM
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