Hello Bob,

>>>> you know, I really did count Ward as a friend. When you said
>>>> somewhere that we are too much alike, I laughed .
>>> You shouldn't have, or if so ironically, since it's true. You two
>>> have a lot i common.
>> One of the reasons I laughed was not because we are so alike.. it was
>> your view of me that I found humorous.

>And what is exactly my view of you as you see it? It might also be interesting
> to know what you find humorous in the present situation.

You have put me in some category akin to Ward Dossche. I'm not like him at
all. I have no reason to be.  I find it funny because it's so ridiculous,
as anyone who knows me will tell you.

The fact that I don't endorse a 'comprimise' in this situation is not
because I am 'hard-headed', stubborn or otherwise unable to see two sides
to a question. The reason I won't is because the ZCC had a valid election,
according to standing policy 4 guidelines, and if I were not correct in
this, 5 out of 6 ZCs would not have agreed on the matter.

>>>> The big difference that I see is that I would never twist policy 4
>>>> to accomplish some ridiculous goal.

>>> Ward doesn't think he's doing that either.

>> Of course he's not going to admit that he is twisting policy.. He
>> knows he's doing it though.

> Does he? The evidence seems to indicate otherwise, since if that weren't the
> case, why didn't he organize a ZCC vote to get rid of Bob Satti the same way
> you did to get rid of Ward?

Ward DID, Robert.

> Ward disliked Bob Satti at least as much as you
>dislike Ward Dossche

I've never said I dislike Ward.. we were fine pals a while back.  I do not
agree with some of his interpretatins of Policy (and where he thinks he as
IC _might_ have interpreted things differently), and I do not agree with
his methods used as IC.

[...]
> knowledge. The standoff lasted for years in that case, until Bob finally
> stepped down of his own accord.

No, you're wrong.

>>> Both of you are wrong.
>> What exactly am I wrong about, Bob?  You'll need to be a bit clearer
>> about that.
> You're operating on thin ice when you argue that a recall procedure that was
>obviously not acceptable for Bob Satti is suddenly just fine for Ward Dossche.

The ZCC has always had this opportunity, and that will never change unless
P4 is changed drastically.

Take care,
Janis

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