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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2006-02-19 10:53:16
subject: Re: Abramoff takes plea - congress critters squirm

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Not as much, the democrats were using the 527's


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:43f7f9fc{at}w3....
> And democrats aren't?
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:43f6b3aa{at}w3....
>> Look into the 501 (c)s. Republicans have been using them for years.
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:43f6ae37$1{at}w3....
>> > 501 money?  Are you talking about charities?
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert G Lewis" 
wrote in message
>> > news:43f6a82b$1{at}w3....
>> >> I notice you skipped the 501 money.
>> >>
>> >> According to CPR the Republicans were the leaders in both Hard and
>> >> Soft
>> >> Money. 1987 to 2002
>> >>
>> >> http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/ptytots.asp?cycle=2002
>> >>
>> >>  Gee even PAC Money in 2004
>> >> .http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/stats.asp?Cycle=2004
>> >>
>> >> 2000 PAC money as well
>> >>
>> >>
http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/blio.asp?display=Pacs&Cycle=2000
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:43f647ef{at}w3....
>> >> > If you count PAC money and 527 money and the value
of in kind free
>> >> > labor
>> >> > from unions then the Democrats are many many
millions ahead.  Every
>> > year.
>> >> > Especially in Presidential years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:43f6081b$1{at}w3....
>> >> >> Note that the Washington Times  article is
talking about lobbyists.
> It
>> >> >> doesn't talk about PACS etc. Also it says for
election campaigns.
> How
>> > is
>> >> > the
>> >> >> money for a PAC given to say the DNC/RNC counted
? What happens if
> the
>> >> > money
>> >> >> is donated to a PAC which goes to another PAC
and then to a
> candidate
>> >> >> ?
>> >> >> So
>> >> >> it could be technically true but very
misleading. Which is why I
> want
>> > to
>> >> > see
>> >> >> the actual study.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "John Cuccia"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ir0cv1h76rtfm727hibh3s2ca3a811hvb8{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >> > Uh oh, this doesn't seem to support the
WT/Powerline numbers at
>> >> >> > al
> l.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/ptytots.asp?cycle=2000
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What a suprise!  More lies from the sleazy right.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:58:31 -0600,
"Robert G Lewis"
>> >> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Powerline just points to a Washington
times article.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>It would be nice to actually have the
actual study rather than
>> >> >> >>the
>> >> >> >>Washington Times interpretation of it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>"Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >>news:43f5faec{at}w3....
>> >> >> >>> You are both wrong.  A study of
lobbyist money over the last 10
>> > years
>> >> > or
>> >> >> >>> so,
>> >> >> >>> just out today and commented upon
at powerlineblog.com shows
>> >> > lobbyist's
>> >> >> >>> favor democracts disproportionately
when democrats are in power
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> favor
>> >> >> >>> Republicans only in proportion to
their numbers when
>> >> >> >>> Republicans
>> > are
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >>> power.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Gary
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> "John Cuccia"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>
news:5hmbv19p951sn9iipp6sgkfm0tojmrv6v2{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >> >>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:19:32
+0100, "Phil Payne"
>> >> >> >>>>
 wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >It ain't just Republicans.
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> GOP talking points to
the contrary, it is indeed mostly
>> >> > Republicans.
>> >> >> >>>> >> It didn't take long
for them to become as corrupt as the
>> >> >> >>>> >> Democrats
>> >> >> >>>> >> they replaced.
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >Lobbyists by definition
target the party in power.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Of course.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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