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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2006-02-17 22:50:42
subject: Re: Abramoff takes plea - congress critters squirm

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

I notice you skipped the 501 money.

According to CPR the Republicans were the leaders in both Hard and Soft
Money. 1987 to 2002

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/ptytots.asp?cycle=2002

 Gee even PAC Money in 2004
.http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/stats.asp?Cycle=2004

2000 PAC money as well

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/blio.asp?display=Pacs&Cycle=2000

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:43f647ef{at}w3....
> If you count PAC money and 527 money and the value of in kind free labor
> from unions then the Democrats are many many millions ahead.  Every year.
> Especially in Presidential years.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:43f6081b$1{at}w3....
>> Note that the Washington Times  article is talking about lobbyists. It
>> doesn't talk about PACS etc. Also it says for election campaigns. How is
> the
>> money for a PAC given to say the DNC/RNC counted ? What happens if the
> money
>> is donated to a PAC which goes to another PAC and then to a candidate ?
>> So
>> it could be technically true but very misleading. Which is why I want to
> see
>> the actual study.
>>
>>
>> "John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>> news:ir0cv1h76rtfm727hibh3s2ca3a811hvb8{at}4ax.com...
>> > Uh oh, this doesn't seem to support the WT/Powerline numbers at all.
>> >
>> > http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/ptytots.asp?cycle=2000
>> >
>> > What a suprise!  More lies from the sleazy right.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:58:31 -0600, "Robert G Lewis"
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >>Powerline just points to a Washington times article.
>> >>
>> >>It would be nice to actually have the actual study rather than the
>> >>Washington Times interpretation of it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >>news:43f5faec{at}w3....
>> >>> You are both wrong.  A study of lobbyist money over
the last 10 years
> or
>> >>> so,
>> >>> just out today and commented upon at powerlineblog.com shows
> lobbyist's
>> >>> favor democracts disproportionately when democrats
are in power and
>> >>> favor
>> >>> Republicans only in proportion to their numbers when
Republicans are
> in
>> >>> power.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>>
>> >>> "John Cuccia" 
wrote in message
>> >>> news:5hmbv19p951sn9iipp6sgkfm0tojmrv6v2{at}4ax.com...
>> >>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:19:32 +0100, "Phil Payne"
>> >>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >It ain't just Republicans.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> GOP talking points to the contrary, it
is indeed mostly
> Republicans.
>> >>>> >> It didn't take long for them to become
as corrupt as the
>> >>>> >> Democrats
>> >>>> >> they replaced.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Lobbyists by definition target the party in power.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Of course.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>

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