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to: John Cuccia
from: John Cuccia
date: 2006-02-17 12:06:44
subject: Re: Abramoff takes plea - congress critters squirm

From: John Cuccia 

Actually, it's cherry-picking the numbers that support their case, much
like the Administration cherry-picked the intelligence needed to support
their warmongering.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:57:54 -0600, John Cuccia  wrote:

>Exactly.  It's yet another case of disingenuity by increasingly
>desperate Republicans.
>
>On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:27:49 -0600, "Robert G Lewis"
> wrote:
>
>>Note that the Washington Times  article is talking about lobbyists. It
>>doesn't talk about PACS etc. Also it says for election campaigns. How is the
>>money for a PAC given to say the DNC/RNC counted ? What happens if the money
>>is donated to a PAC which goes to another PAC and then to a candidate ? So
>>it could be technically true but very misleading. Which is why I want to see
>>the actual study.
>>
>>
>>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>>news:ir0cv1h76rtfm727hibh3s2ca3a811hvb8{at}4ax.com...
>>> Uh oh, this doesn't seem to support the WT/Powerline numbers at all.
>>>
>>> http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/ptytots.asp?cycle=2000
>>>
>>> What a suprise!  More lies from the sleazy right.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:58:31 -0600, "Robert G Lewis"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Powerline just points to a Washington times article.
>>>>
>>>>It would be nice to actually have the actual study rather than the
>>>>Washington Times interpretation of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>news:43f5faec{at}w3....
>>>>> You are both wrong.  A study of lobbyist money over
the last 10 years or
>>>>> so,
>>>>> just out today and commented upon at powerlineblog.com
shows lobbyist's
>>>>> favor democracts disproportionately when democrats are
in power and
>>>>> favor
>>>>> Republicans only in proportion to their numbers when
Republicans are in
>>>>> power.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "John Cuccia" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:5hmbv19p951sn9iipp6sgkfm0tojmrv6v2{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:19:32 +0100, "Phil Payne"
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >It ain't just Republicans.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> GOP talking points to the contrary, it is
indeed mostly Republicans.
>>>>>> >> It didn't take long for them to become as
corrupt as the Democrats
>>>>>> >> they replaced.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Lobbyists by definition target the party in power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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