From: "Mark" 

I guess I'm overly pessimistic (and maybe just in bad mood from all the
constant BS being slung around like so much chum off the back of liberal's
yacht), but things like only 3 or so newspapers in the entire friggin
country "brave" enough to publish some friggin cartoons, makes me
feel we've already lost anyway.

So maybe the Zogby poll is right, maybe the troops see our illustrious
press and wonder what the frig the point is. If so, it's over for us. So as
I said, get your prayer mat out, it's already there.

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:44065bea$1{at}w3....
>> Then go out and buy your prayer mat Bob
>
> Geeze Mark, you so far out of touch with what I think that it isn't even
> funny -- kick their ass if they try to take over, plaster them, nuke them,
> fine by me.
>
>> I doubt that we'll wake up even if we lose a dozen major cities.
>
> If we lose any cities it will be because of our policies in the middle
> east and I'll blame each and every death on Bush and those who support
> him.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:44065abd$1{at}w3....
>> Then go out and buy your prayer mat Bob and don't look at any cartoons on
>> your way to the store, cause that's where we're headed with the help of
>> the peaceniks and press -- I doubt that we'll wake up even if we lose a
>> dozen major cities.
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:44065a12$1{at}w3....
>>>> Anything's possible Bob, but "these blogs" have
been consistent from
>>>> the get-go, it's Zogby (or that peace outfit) that is the
outlier here.
>>>
>>> Zogby isn't an outlier either, there's have been similar stories all
>>> along. Not quite to that degree I'll grant you, but the discontent.....
>>> No clear mission is a *killer* for military moral.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:440650f1$1{at}w3....
>>>> Anything's possible Bob, but "these blogs" have
been consistent from
>>>> the get-go, it's Zogby (or that peace outfit) that is the
outlier here.
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>>>> news:44064fec$1{at}w3....
>>>>> We don't truly know if these blogs are any more
representative than
>>>>> the Zogby story unfortunately.  They could well be
just plain military
>>>>> controlled propaganda. They've admitted doing the same
to the Iraqi's,
>>>>> so I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to win
our hearts and
>>>>> minds under false pretenses too...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark"  wrote in
message news:44061574{at}w3....
>>>>>>
http://officersclub.blogspot.com/2006/02/somethings-not-right-here.html
>>>>>> "Look, you can take Le Moyne College and John
Zogby's word on it, and
>>>>>> let them act as middleman between you and troops
in Iraq, or you can
>>>>>> go directly hundreds of troops in the Middle East via their
>>>>>> individual blogs. I recommend milblogging.com, The
Mudville Gazette,
>>>>>> or Blackfive as a portal to getting to those guys.
Don't be surprised
>>>>>> when you find that what the troops say, and what
Zogby says the
>>>>>> troops are saying doesn't exactly match-up."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>> wrote in message news:4405ffd8{at}w3....
>>>>>>> Given all that we've heard from the Right
about listening to the
>>>>>>> troops
>>>>>>> etc.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0301/dailyUpdate.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A large majority of US troops think the
US should withdraw
>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>> from Iraq within a year. Stars and Stripes
reports that the poll of
>>>>>>> 944
>>>>>>> US troops in Iraq, conducted by Zogby
International, found that only
>>>>>>> 23
>>>>>>> percent of service members felt that the US
should "stay as long as
>>>>>>> needed." Although the poll, conducted in
January and February of
>>>>>>> 2006,
>>>>>>> was carried out without Pentagon approval,
Zogby International said
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> did have the approval of commanders in Iraq.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Of the 72 percent, 22 percent said troops
should leave within the
>>>>>>> next six months, and 29 percent said they
should withdraw
>>>>>>> "immediately."
>>>>>>> Twenty-one percent said the US military
presence should end within a
>>>>>>> year; 5 percent weren't sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The poll was funded by Le Moyne College's
Center for Peace and
>>>>>>> Global
>>>>>>> Studies, which received money for the project
from an anonymous
>>>>>>> antiwar
>>>>>>> activist. John Zogby, the president of Zogby
International, said
>>>>>>> neither
>>>>>>> the college nor the donor had imput on the
content of the poll, or
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> it was conducted. Of those surveyed, 75
percent had served multiple
>>>>>>> tours in Iraq, 63 percent were under 30 years
of age, and 25 percent
>>>>>>> were women.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One surprising finding in the poll is that 85
percent of those
>>>>>>> surveyed
>>>>>>> believe that the US's main mission in Iraq is
to retaliate against
>>>>>>> Saddam Hussein for his role in the Sept. 11,
2001, attacks. Numerous
>>>>>>> commissions and studies have been unable to
find that Iraq played
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> role in the 9/11 bombings."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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