From: "arah" 

My Dear John Fraser

So you mentioned that Jesus was a fulfillment of Prophecy.  His appearance
was not to change or abolish the Mosaic Law codis which the Jews were bound
to, nor would any of it be changed as a result, but why the Christians are
not following Jesus  and abolish the Old Covenant but follow the New
Covenant invented by Paul?.

So the Christians disregard Jesus and disobey Jesus teachings which are
clearly written in Matthew?

Paul was a murderer and Paul is a pharisee. You agree that a pharisees is
hipocrate and away from God so that should include Paul ?

Verse 19 is not just to Adam and Eve but to all mankind, who ever break God
laws and instructions they will be punished unless they repent or ask
forgiveness..Name it Jews,Christians or Muslim etc

You mentioned the following:

"God didn't really mean what he said about dying, and the eating of
the fruit was not that great a crime." It this true?

But why Christian believed in the Original Sin and  why every new born are
sinner unless they are baptised.?  It is no different that you have to go
to jail if your grand parent found guilty of stealing unless you pay the
fines..

Do you think you are getting help from Jesus now or do you think you are
getting guidance  from the holy sprit? Please share your pesonnel
experience. if there is any.

I mentioned ealier that is Jesus can even  help himself from being murder
by the Jews and the Roman, if Jesus can't save John the Baptist being
murder by the Jews  when he is alive so can you prove to me that Jesus 
able to help you now?

If Jesus have to eat when he is hungry and Jesus have to sleep when he is
tired do you still consider  Jesus as God?

My dear John Fraser,

Have you come across the following verses

In the New Testament of the Bibles, the 4th chapter of S. Matthew, the
6th and the 7th verses clearly indicate that Jesus is an obedient one and
God is the Master and the Lord.


" Thou shall not tempt the Lord, thy God"


In this chapter, the Devil actually carried the Messiah, and took him from
place to place. How can the devil carry God?


Then the Devil order him to prostrate before him and worship him even
tempting him with worldly possessions. How an the Devil even dare such
an audacity with God? When the Devil wanted Jesus to comply with his order,
he (Jesus) replied by saying:


"Thou shall not prostrate before any but the Lord, your  God. And HIM
alone shall you worship" S. Matthew 4:10

That same devil still alive, and  getting stronger pursuading everyone to
worship Jesus and other idols which are available in the churches.

So Jesus never ask anyone to pray to him but prostrate only to Al Mightly
God. But why the Christians still pray and ask from Jesus?

" And behold, one come and said unto him, Good master, what good thing
shall I do tat I may eternal life? And he(Jesus) said unto him ,
Why callest thou me good? (There is) none good but one, (God), but if thou
will enter into life, keep the commandment" Matthew 19:16-17


" And the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parable, they
perceived he speak of them. But when they sought to lay his hands on him,
they feared the multitude because took him for a prophet" Matthew 21:
45-46


JESUS: PREACHEROF MONOTHESISM


 " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true
God, and Jesus whom thou has sent"  S John 17:3


" And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, tou have said the truth:
for there is one God: and there is none other than He" S. Mark 12: 32


" But of that day and hour knoweth, no man, not the angles of the
heaven, but my father only" S. Mark 24:36


 So let us seek more knowledge and guidance from Al Mighty God. Amin

Cheers


On Mar 26, 2:37 am, "John Fraser"  wrote:
> Good afternoon Arah;
>
> "arah"  wrote in message
>
> news:1174831710.679907.48390{at}p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My dear John Fraser
>
> > Thank you for your reply, but I still does not understand what Jesus
> > trying to tell us in Matthew 5:17-20
>
> > 17    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or
the Prophets;
> > I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
>
> > 18    I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not
> > the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any
> > means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
>
>     Jesus was a fulfillment of Prophecy.  His appearance was not to change
> or abolish the Mosaic Law codis which the Jews were bound to, nor would any
> of it be changed as a result.
>
>
>
> > 19    Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and
> > teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom
> > of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be
> > called great in the kingdom of heaven.
>
>     Verse 19 explains itself, but its essence first appears in Genesis when
> the Serpent persuaded Eve that God didn't really mean what he said about
> dying, and the eating of the fruit was not that great a crime.  Those who
> cherish doing the will of God and teaching others to do the same are the
> most valuable.  We all know what happened to the Serpent.
>
>
>
> > 20    For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that
> > of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly
> > not enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-20
>
> Matt 23:25
>     Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the
> outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion
> and excess.
>
>     At the time, the general populace considered the Pharisees far above
> them in manner and deportment.  They were the teachers, so why wouldn't they
> be?  Yet Jesus also knew that the Pharisees were subject to the same basic
> problem as those they taught: pride.  It is our pride which separates us
> from God, therefore we would have to be better than they.
>
>
>
> > Let me share what the Quran said about Jesus
>
> > Lo! The angels said: "O Mary! Behold, God sends thee the glad tiding,
> > through a word from Him, [of a son] who shall become known as the
> > Christ [32] Jesus, son of Mary, of great honour in this world and in
> > the life to come, and [shall be] of those who are drawn near unto
> > God.  Al-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:45
>
> > " Near unto God" not physically nor geographically, but
spiritually.
> > Compare this with
> > Mark 16:19 -  After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up
> > into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
>
>     Mohammed didn't consider Jesus to be the doorway to the Father.  All non
> Christian religions do likewise.
>
>
>
> > Almost all Christians have misunderstood this verse as well as many
> > others in the Bible. They imagine the Father (God) sitting on a
> > throne- a glorified chair- and His "son", Jesus sitting
on His right
> > hand side. Can you conjure up this picture? If you do you have strayed
> > from the true knowledge of God. He is no Old Father Christmas. He is a
> > spiritual Being, beyond imagination of the mind of man. He exists, He
> > is real, but He is not like any thing we can think of or imagine. In
> > the Eastern language "right hand " meant a place of
honour, which tje
> > Holy Quran more fittinggly describes as - " IN THE COMPANY OF THOSE
> > NEAREST TO GOD."
>
>     In the company of the angels?  Your words are really about denying the
> significance of Jesus.  Tell me, does Islam teach about the guidance of the
> Holy Spirit?
>
>
>
> > Jesus is the Christ, and he is the WORD which God bestowed upon Mary.
> > Again Christian reads into these words a meaning which they do not
> > carry. They equate the word " Christ" with the idea of a god
> > incarnate, and the word of God to be God.
>
>     That's not a misunderstanding.  Jesus is God; he was crucified for
> saying so.
>
>
>
> > My dear John Fraser
>
> > Do you agree with me?
>
> > Now how about this,
>
> > And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and
> > it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's
> > friend.-James 2:23
>
> > Since the bible said that Abraham is God's friend so can we imagine
> > that God is just like Abraham?
>
>     If you and your wife are become one flesh in marriage, is your wife like
> you?
>
>
>
> > May God show us the right path and save us from the hellfire
>
> > AMEN
>
> Cheers,
> John

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