From: "Mark" 

We'll see how things shake out, you've been pessimistic since before the
beginning, this is just one more event you're using to support your
unwavering world-view that we lost before we started.

"Robert Comer"  wrote in
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> >Still others say the Shia have been remarkably restrained throughout, I
> >agree with the latter.
>
> Not the last 2 days they weren't.  How many attacks on Sunni mosques was
> it? how many Sunni's executed vigilante style.....
>
>> I wonder, had we done it right in the first Gulf war, whether we'd not be
>> much better off today in general?
>
> Nope, it would have been the same as now -- Bush (Sr.) knew what would
> happen (and wrote about it) and that's why we didn't go all the way.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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>>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
>>> news:op.s5gy4ojqeipai0{at}dsl40.bgtnvtpl.sover.net...
>>>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:42:53 -0500, Rich Gauszka

>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  James Baker 1996
>>>>> ``Removing him from power might well have plunged Iraq
into civil war,
>>>>> sucking U.S. forces in to preserve order. Had we
elected to march on
>>>>> Baghdad, our forces might still be there.''
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny to see YOU quote him.  Just selectively when ONE thing agrees
>>>> with your weltanshauung.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary Wiltshire
>>>
>>> So Iraq is not on the brink of civil war?
>>
>> Some say so, some say not, some say they've been in one since we got
>> there, others say they've been in one for 20 years. Still others say the
>> Shia have been remarkably restrained throughout, I agree with the latter.
>>
>> That Baker thought in 1996 that we'd still be there then, five years
>> after the initial invasion doesn't sound remarkable to me, as doesn't the
>> fact that we'll still be there in 2008, five years from the beginning of
>> this operation, and beyond.
>>
>> I wonder, had we done it right in the first Gulf war, whether we'd not be
>> much better off today in general? I wonder if the governments in Syria
>> and Iran would have long since toppled thus our current nuclear problem
>> with Iran being nonexistent? We'll never know what would've happened, but
>> walking around chanting about some mythical "exit plan"
as if that's the
>> objective of the operation and wringing one's hands about how long we
>> might be there, isn't really relevant to the task at hand. Is it?
>>
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