From: John Cuccia 

Even Fox News has dropped the pretense that there is no civil war in Iraq,
and have begun speculating that it may be for the best.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602240003




On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:08:59 -0500, "Mark"
 wrote:

>Oddly enough, it's the *other* ongoing events, like elections and
>constitutions that get sloshed off to page B19 that give me cause to remain
>optimistic.
>
>As I recall Buckley wasn't for the Iraq war from the getgo and he's getting
>pretty old, so may want to take his bow now, lest he never get the chance
>
>
>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>news:d64vv1p4c9bif4ddaps4i30acg56fq9hoi{at}4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:06:32 -0500, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>
>>>>>We'll see how things shake out, you've been pessimistic
since before the
>>>>>beginning, this is just one more event you're using to
support your
>>>>>unwavering world-view that we lost before we started.
>>>>
>>>> Events are proving that your Pollyana-like faith in a
positive outcome
>>>> has always been unfounded.
>>>
>>>As with multiple previous negative events, to you all is lost because of
>>>each one.
>>
>> You still don't get it.  It's not any single event signifying that we
>> have failed in Iraq, it is the sum of all events since the invasion
>> that point to our failure.  Here's someone who agrees with me.  I know
>> that you (and the Garys) probably consider this guy to be a
>> faux-conservative and RINO, but you should really listen to what he
>> has to say on this:
>>
>> http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp
>> One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The
>> same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise
>> Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He
>> now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in
>> Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He
>> concludes that "The bombing has completely demolished"
what was being
>> attempted - to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.
>>
>> Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved
>> uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans.
>>
>

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