On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:10:11 GMT, rfischer{at}bolt.sonic.net (Ray
Fischer) wrote:

>Grizzlie Antagonist   wrote:
>> rfischer{at}bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>Since childbirth was taking place long
before there were ever
>>>>>>>>"abortion rights", obviously
"abortion rights" do NOT lead to
>>>>>>>>childbirth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Since abortions were taking place long before
there were any
>>>>>>>rights at all, obviously "abortion
rights" do NOT lead to 
>>>>>>>abortion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then why bother to agitate for them?
>>>>>
>>>>>Liberty.
>>>>>
>>>>>Which is something you don't seem to value.
>>>>
>>>>At the expense of an innocent human life.  No.
>>>
>>>Unless it's your liberty at stake in which case the 
>>>"innocent life" can go ahead and die.
>>
>>  What innocent life is dying in service of my liberty?  I
>>don't favor legalized abortion.
>
>10,000+ people die of hunger every day.  Most of them are children.
>Strip you of your rights and we could use your money and property to
>feed them and force you to work 100 hours/week to save more.



I'm not buying it, Royal Fuckup.

I am not responsible for the deaths of 10,000 strangers that I don't
know in the same sense that a prospective mother who aborts is
responsible for the death of the baby that she was carrying.


>>>>  Dumping a DELIVERED
>>>>baby into a garbage bin is also an example of someone exercising his
>>>>or her "liberties".
>>>
>>>You letting children strave to death because you don't want to be
>>>bothered with "innocent life" is an example of YOUR liberty.
>>
>>  Which children am I letting strave to death?
>
>"What children are being murdered in abortions?"


All of the ones being aborted.



>>>So why should a pregnant women be forced to keep a fetus alive when
>>>you're free to let children die?
>>
>>I can't answer because I don't have the faintest idea of what you're
>
>Because you're a murderous control freak who wants nothing but to
>make women suffer.  And you're too much a coward to admit it.

Well, I'm a control freak who enjoys making women suffer.  So I'm
willing to meet you halfway.



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"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their
disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as
their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their
soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and
presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the
counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. 
Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be
placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must
be without.  It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men
of intemperate minds cannot be free.  Their passions forge their
fetters."
     
     - Edmund Burke, Letter to a Member of the National Assembly (1791)


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