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echo: r_catholic
to: stumper
from: Ray Fischer
date: 2007-03-26 04:56:04
subject: Re: Does the universe prefer life?

From: rfischer{at}sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

stumper   wrote:
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> stumper   wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007
10:04:09 -0400, stumper
 in
>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not all things
in the world are physical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many things
are way beyond our comprehension.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God might be
be one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But probably not. 
Especially since you don't even know what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by the
term "God".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God might not
be not something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be proved
or even understood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The race is not
always to the swift nor the battle to the strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's the way to bet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if God is the
universe and some more?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we prove that
the universe exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if God is
everything there ever was,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever is, and ever will be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we prove that
such God exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>> What if none of that is true?
>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>>>> So, such God exists by definition.
>>>>>>>>>> Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
>>>>>>>>> What makes you think you exist?
>>>>>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>>>>>> What makes you think the universe exists?
>>>>>> I don't care if it exists, wanker.  It's a useful
working hypothesis
>>>>>> to assume that it does.
>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think your self exists?
>>>> 1st Meditations.
>>> Do you believe in your government?
>>
>> Are you stupid?
>
>How do you know that your government even exists?

How do you know your god exists?

Actually, I know the question to that, even if you do not.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer{at}sonic.net

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