From: "Mark" 

Okay, sorry Bob, my intent wasn't to put words in your mouth 

"Robert Comer"  wrote in
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>> We'll see how things shake out, you've been pessimistic since before the
>> beginning,
>
> Not true at all Mark. I supported Bush in the Iraq situation well after
> the invasion -- it was only after I saw how the Iraqi's were handling
> things and none of the reasons Bush put forth for the invasion turned out
> to be true. Part of my problem is I feel like a fool for supporting it.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> We'll see how things shake out, you've been pessimistic since before the
>> beginning, this is just one more event you're using to support your
>> unwavering world-view that we lost before we started.
>>
>> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>> news:43ff39b9{at}w3....
>>> >Still others say the Shia have been remarkably restrained
throughout, I
>>> >agree with the latter.
>>>
>>> Not the last 2 days they weren't.  How many attacks on Sunni mosques was
>>> it? how many Sunni's executed vigilante style.....
>>>
>>>> I wonder, had we done it right in the first Gulf war,
whether we'd not
>>>> be much better off today in general?
>>>
>>> Nope, it would have been the same as now -- Bush (Sr.) knew what would
>>> happen (and wrote about it) and that's why we didn't go all the way.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote
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>>>>> news:op.s5gy4ojqeipai0{at}dsl40.bgtnvtpl.sover.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:42:53 -0500, Rich Gauszka
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  James Baker 1996
>>>>>>> ``Removing him from power might well have
plunged Iraq into civil
>>>>>>> war,
>>>>>>> sucking U.S. forces in to preserve order. Had
we elected to march on
>>>>>>> Baghdad, our forces might still be there.''
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny to see YOU quote him.  Just selectively when
ONE thing agrees
>>>>>> with your weltanshauung.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary Wiltshire
>>>>>
>>>>> So Iraq is not on the brink of civil war?
>>>>
>>>> Some say so, some say not, some say they've been in one since we got
>>>> there, others say they've been in one for 20 years. Still others say
>>>> the Shia have been remarkably restrained throughout, I
agree with the
>>>> latter.
>>>>
>>>> That Baker thought in 1996 that we'd still be there then, five years
>>>> after the initial invasion doesn't sound remarkable to me,
as doesn't
>>>> the fact that we'll still be there in 2008, five years from the
>>>> beginning of this operation, and beyond.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder, had we done it right in the first Gulf war,
whether we'd not
>>>> be much better off today in general? I wonder if the governments in
>>>> Syria and Iran would have long since toppled thus our
current nuclear
>>>> problem with Iran being nonexistent? We'll never know what would've
>>>> happened, but walking around chanting about some mythical
"exit plan"
>>>> as if that's the objective of the operation and wringing one's hands
>>>> about how long we might be there, isn't really relevant to
the task at
>>>> hand. Is it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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