-=> Quoting Ivy Iverson to Fred Austin <=-
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    Hi Ivy, 
 
 FA> My only thought
 FA> really on this is we as the public are not always aware of new
 FA> materials.
 II> 
 II> Quite true, however one would THINK that after over 50 years, we would
 II> see similar materials in production in consumer products, nowever this
 II> does not seem to be the case.
    Depends on the application, it may very well be used in some  form 
or another.
 II> neither bend nor break it.  If it were some kind of rubber material, it
 II> would have been bendable, I would think, and it certainly wouldn't have
 II> the metallic appearance described.  Also, it FELT like metal, according
 II> to descriptions.  Rubber, plastic and similar materials most certainly
 II> do NOT look _OR_ FEEL like metal!
     I  think  there  is  a  lot   of  uncertainly   here.   Different 
descriptions over the years has added bend, couldn't dent it  etc.  It 
is hard to say which is accurate.  I have heard dent.  But then try and 
dent rubber.  Or break rubber.  Felt like metal I have not heard of.
Metallic look yes.  But I do believe that a silvery rubber could  very 
well be one was talked about.  
 FA> The foil may have been a rubber with a tin foil type
 FA> covering etc, and does unfold etc..
 II> 
 II> I have held, folded and wadded plastic similar to what was described,
 II> complete with metallic coating, (thin enough to shine a bright light
 II> through), and while it does tend to unfold, it DOES show crease lines
 II> when it unfolds.  If it were from OUR technology, I would think that
 II> they would have started using such a material in consumer products,
 II> such as the bags which food is sold in, in a lot less than 50 years!
    Now  Ivy,  I believe  there are  materials that  do exhibit  those 
properties.   As  for consumer  use, the  price of  the material  is a 
determining factor.  if the material is space age  poly rubber  and it 
will cost the consumer $5.00 a bag, I  do not  think there  will be  a 
market for it.  Simple math.  As the price comes down on manufacturing 
techniques, then it becomes a viable product for  the general  masses.  
In the  1950's there  were computers.   Were they  on the  market. No. 
Unless you  wanted to  spend $10,000,000.   Look at  satellite dishes.  
They have been around for what 30 years.  Only in the last 5-10  years 
have they really been available to the public as something affordable.  
 II> This doesn't surprise me!  If a light airplane, such as a Cessna 150
 II> were to crash, it would be a simple matter to pick up pieces and throw
 II> them into the trunk of a car.  Remember, most of it was loaded onto a
 II> truck, covered with a tarp, and trucked to an AAF, (now USAF), base to
 II> be flown to... wherever.  And it was under armed guard all the way!  It
 II> was only small pieces of the wreckage, like you would find in the
 II> vicinity of a small plane crash, that went into the car's trunk.
     That is speculation.  That is not the original  story.  Somewhere 
along the way we have added trucks with  tarps etc..   This story  has 
become  so  exaggerated that  I believe  it could  never be  resolved.  
Second we are not talking a Cessna here, we would  be talking  about a 
possible interstellar craft or  even short  range craft.   I think  it 
would be a little bit bigger than portrayed.  It was  flown to  Wright 
Patterson.   Under  guard yes,because  if it  was secret  it would  be 
guarded regardless of what it was.  Also according to testimonies from 
I believe it was guards themselves,I  would have  to look  it up,  the 
stuff flown was in a "couple" of boxes.  Not very large.  I  think you 
have been listening to a lot of hearsay...
 II> air...INSTANTLY! Family members of witnesses were told in so many words
 II> that if they ever breathed a word about what they "knew"... "The desert
 II> is a big place, and nobody will ever find your bones..."  That sounds
 II> to me like Uncle Sam was pretty darn worried about SOMETHING!
    First then, why are they alive and talking  now or  20 years  ago.  
Why were they allowed  to live.   Given the  potential of  the secret. 
They are expendable.  They whole town would be expendable.  Right next 
to  a  nuclear  base.   How unfortunate.   Accidental detonation.   No 
survivors, no witnesses.  Also if this were so true, there is no  time 
limit on talking.  If were are to believe that they were threatened in 
such a manner.  You cannot have conspiracy that follows no rules or at 
least does not backup its own threats.
 Ok, I am going to make one point about Roswell,the one everyone seems 
to ignore.  I have  said this  before.  Ask  yourself the  one serious 
question.  Given the history of the world the last 40  years, the  way 
countries are,  do you  honestly believe,  your country  could hide  a 
captured UFO from the intelligence agencies of the  rest of  the world 
forever.  With the Soviets  breathing down  your neck,  living on  the 
edge  of  Armageddon, would  not advanced  technology be  the key  to 
starting WW3.  As history has shown, the world lived on edge for  many 
years,  in  detente.  Which  meant, each  side had  a equal  amount of 
firepower.   Alien  technology would  have tipped  the balance.   Both 
sides the U.S and Soviets have been spying  on each  other for  years.  
Do you seriously believe  that the  Soviets were  not in  your country 
investigating  Roswell.  Each  side  knows  what  the other  side has.  
Period.   Your  country  may  very  well  be  able  to hide  data from 
Ufologists  with  limited  resources,  but  not  from  a  nation  with 
unlimited resources. Case in point, where do you  think the  photos of 
illustrious Area 51 are coming from. Soviet satellites.   So, now  re- 
evaluate Roswell.  It just  doesn't fit  past history......   Everyone 
neatly leaves the rest of the world out in the cold, when in fact, the 
rest of the world would be seriously interested........
Happy Trails,
Fred.
 Internet: Fred.Austin@juxta.mn.pubnix.net   
           Fred.Austin@sphinx.hughestech.com 
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