ml>> nope... every single one of my linux installs has asked me what
 ml>> timezone the machine is located in, if daylight savings is to be used
 ml>> and if the clock is UTC or local time... based on these questions,
 ml>> certain settings are stored and maintained by the system and
 ml>> everything else, like the ...

 MK> Understood.  Then adjustments are entirely possible.  Try
 MK> "date -u" on the commandline and see what that says.  No
 MK> matter what you set your zone for that should make the
 MK> adjustment.

my whole point is that the machine and the OS don't have a clue... all the
machine can do is to keep the time in the BIOS clock and feed it to the OS
when asked... the OS has to be _told_ what that time represents as far as
UTC or localtime and if localtime, it must also be told what timezone...

)\/(ark