From: "Rich Gauszka" 

First General Casey downgraded the Level One units from 3 to 1 and now they
are at zero yet you are still hanging on to some flimsy 'air power'
rationale that no one in the military has used. ( or anyone in authority
that I can find a link to ). I'm saying that I suspect there is some other
reason.  I just don't know what and they're not telling.



"Mark"  wrote in message news:44010ee7$1{at}w3....
> C'mon Rich, you cited Roggio's (glad to see you're reading him, I sent him
> a few bucks to help finance his trip to Iraq late last year) requirements
> for "Level One" status -- if they don't have all of those capabilities
> available of, by, and for Iraqis, they aren't "Level One"
and I'm saying
> that perhaps their aircraft weren't serviceable for maintenance or had
> been damaged in combat (or they didn't have enough artillery) resulting in
> the loss of that status.
>
> But that doesn't mean they're helpless Armadillos laying on their backs in
> the NoonDay sun. 
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:44010dc0{at}w3....
>>I don't know where you are getting the idea that for level one they need
>>'home grown air support'
>>
>> Where was the 'home grown air support' the first time the battalion
>> achieved level one status?
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:44010a81{at}w3....
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:44010347$1{at}w3....
>>>> You keep arguing that they cannot be 'by definition' at
level one - yet
>>>> our military gave them level one status and now downgraded them.
>>>>
>>>> BTW the definition of Level One is ( you may even like this like )
>>>>
>>>> http://billroggio.com/archives/2005/10/training_the_ir_1.php
>>>>
>>>> 'Units are completely independent; Units do not require air, armor,
>>>> artillery, logistical support (supplies).'
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> My point has been, and continues to be, that there is not enough
>>> home-grown Iraqi air support to make them "Level
One" they need US air
>>> support to meet those "Level One" requirements -- I
imagine it'll be
>>> quite some time before any significant number of battallions will have
>>> enough Iraqi air support to qualify (perhaps what they have now was
>>> down, thus resulting in loss of "Level One"
characterization for that
>>> one battallion, perhaps there's not enough air support at this time for
>>> more than a few in total, but they don't meet the requirements for other
>>> reasons as well)
>>>
>>> But again, as pointed out in your original link, that doesn't mean that
>>> they are not capable in general.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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