From: Robert Comer 

>Except that it removes God from the equation of how come we are we.

It doesn't remove God at all for me.  It's the difference between why and
how things started versus how they work now.

>So one book is vague. How about in the Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian,
>Wicca etc etc Books?

I can't speak about the other books, especially since John inferred
Christianism with that backhanded description.

>Yeah much better to just torture the scientists into recanting their
>heresies after all forcing someone to change their belief that the earth
>is not the center of the universe let alone the solar system is just too
>dangerous.

No, that's exactly the same problem, you're trying to force a belief change
on someone, and like I said, that's a very dangerous thing to do.

My point about being dangerous is purely human, forced changes are how wars start...

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Bob Comer




On Sun, 06 May 2007 08:50:01 +0100, Adam
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote:

>Robert Comer wrote:
>>> That's the puzzling aspect of the evolution debate. There is NO conflict
>>> between evolution and religious belief.
>>
>> That's my argument.  (Being a person who has studied science all my
>> life, and is a Christian.)
>>
>
>Except that it removes God from the equation of how come we are we.
>
>
>
>>> Evolution does point out that observable facts contradict any claim that
>>> animals were popped down on earth 6000 years ago, in their
final form. So
>>> creationism is not a sustainable belief, but other religious views are.
>>
>> Actually, there's nothing in the Bible about just how God did it, and
>> there's no date either...
>>
>
>So one book is vague. How about in the Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian,
>Wicca etc etc Books?
>
>
>>> The problem now is that some religious traditions have backed themselves
>>> into a corner and don't want to change their tune. Once they get over
>>> that, and start getting a better grasp of how the universe works, they
>>> will be all the more appreciative of the majesty of the
creator that they
>>> believe put it there.
>>
>> Trying to force someone to change their beliefs is a VERY dangerous
>> thing to do.
>>
>
>Yeah much better to just torture the scientists into recanting their
>heresies after all forcing someone to change their belief that the earth
>is not the center of the universe let alone the solar system is just too
>dangerous.
>
>
>Adam

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