On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:55:52 GMT, rfischer{at}bolt.sonic.net (Ray
Fischer) wrote:

>Murdoc  wrote:
>>Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> Grizzlie Antagonist   wrote:
>>> > rfischer{at}bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> 
>>> > > > > > > > Since childbirth was taking
place long before there were ever
>>> > > > > > > > "abortion
rights", obviously "abortion rights" do NOT lead to
>>> > > > > > > > childbirth.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Since abortions were taking
place long before there were any
>>> > > > > > > rights at all, obviously
"abortion rights" do NOT lead to 
>>> > > > > > > abortion.
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Then why bother to agitate for them?
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > Liberty.
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > Which is something you don't seem to value.
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > At the expense of an innocent human life.  No.
>>> > > 
>>> > > Unless it's your liberty at stake in which case the 
>>> > > "innocent life" can go ahead and die.
>>> > 
>>> >  What innocent life is dying in service of
my liberty?  I
>>> > don't favor legalized abortion.
>>> 
>>> 10,000+ people die of hunger every day.  Most of them are children.
>>> Strip you of your rights and we could use your money and property to
>>> feed them and force you to work 100 hours/week to save more.
>>
>>And you, as well,
>
>I don't demand that anybody be forced to help, Murdick.  


Yes, you just did, Royal Fuckup.


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placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must
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