"Ben"  wrote in message
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>
> Hyerdahl wrote:
> > Ben wrote:
> > > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > > > MCP wrote:
> > > > >
> > http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/a-b/adams/2005/adams031705.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > March 17, 2005
> > > > > by Mike S. Adams, Ph.D.
> > > > >
> > > > > In 2003, the Women's Resource Center (WRC) at UNC-Wilmington
> > > > embarrassed the
> > > > > university by placing an obscene advertisement for
The Vagina
> > > > Monologues
> > > > > (TVM) just outside the entrance to the school cafeteria. The
> > sign,
> > > > reading
> > > > > "p-----s unite," was even seen by
children entering the
> cafeteria
> > > > with their
> > > > > parents.
> > > >
> > > > [Well, I suppose that goes to show, just how women have taken
> back
> > > all
> > > > those words MEN INVENTED to describe the female sex organ.
> > >
> > > We know that men invented these?
> >
> > Men have invented as many words for the female vagina as there are
> > words; yes, we know that men invented slang words.  After all, why
> > would a woman call her own sex organs "snatch".  :-)
>
> My partner was interviewing a five year old girl once while I monitored
> and recorded the interview from an adjoining room.  The little girl
> referred to her vagina as a "snipper-snapper".  I was attempting to
> re-hinge my lower jaw while my partner was learning that it was the
> girl's mother who taught her to use that word for her vagina.
>
> >
> >  Isn't it educational to let children know what men thought of women
> > and how men > attempted to denigrate the female sex organ,
> > HIStorically?
> > >
> > > No, acting like a fool is never really educational for children.
> >
> > But it is men who invented slang (and mostly denigrating) words for
> > women's sex organs, so they ARE the fools.
>
> Perpetuating a foolishness doesn't make you less of a fool, whether or
> not you started it.
>
> >  They invented words to put
> > down women's sex organs and now they're embarassed at having them
> > exposed?
>
> What makes you think it's just men?  Many women I know think TVM is the
> stupidest thing they've ever heard of--and these are women used to
> hearing stupid things from feminists.
>
> >  I guess I'd hide my head in shame too, if I had originated
> > that many slang words for a penis.  :-)> >
>
> I think "dickdork" is original to you--I don't believe I've ever heard
> that before.  :)   And that always struck me as a repititious term,
> kind of like "househome".
>
> > > >
> >  Last week, the WRC decided to advertise TVM on the lighted marquee
> >  in > front of the university. Wilmington residents were greeted by
> the
> > word "vagina" > flashing in bright lights as they passed the
> university
> > on the way to > work, to school, or to church. In fact, the flashing
> > "vagina" sign was positioned> right across the
street from the Greek
> > Orthodox Church and the administrative headquarters of the local
> > Baptist Church.
> > > >
> > > > Again, isn't it time women took the denigratory words men
> assigned
> > to
> > > > them and used them for GOOD?
> > >
> > > The word 'vagina' is derogatory?
> >
> > It all depends on how it's used, I suppose.  When men put huge signs
> > for lap dance parlours on the way to down town Palm Springs, I'd say
> > the effects of THAT are worse for girls than the mere word
"vagina"
> > which is a medical term of art.
>
> I guess I don't see the need for *any* of it in big neon signs.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >  You bitter boys who INVENTED such words,
> > > > seem somewhat embarassed now that women are using them for good.
> > >
> > > Oh, I don't know, Hy...I'd be embarrassed if someone flashed the
> word
> > > 'penis' in bright lights outside a church too.
> >
> > Why?  What about a sign that said, "Penile tumors are becoming more
> > commonplace; check your penis TODAY!"
>
> Except, according to this article, the sign just said "Vagina".
>
> >   The Vagina Monologues is just a
> > play dedicated to making sure women are not silenced when it comes to
> > their genitals.
>
> Uh-huh.   lol
>
> >  There's nothing wrong with the word, unless someone
> > uses it to denigrate.
> > > >
> > > > > (edit of meninist vitriol)
> > > >
> > > > > But the most embarrassing part of the evening occurred when
> UNC-W
> > > > Chancellor Rosemary DePaolo was recognized in public by the
> Vagina
> > Warriors for> > establishing a domestic violence task force in the
> wake
> > of the> murders of > > two UNC-W students. This
recognition was given
> > despite DePaolo' > publi> > > admission that she
spent less time on
> the
> > murders of the two> students > than> > > she spent
on a hazing
> incident
> > involving the UNC-W swim team. Both > murdered > > women had been
> > stalked by male students with prior criminal records.
> > > >
> > > > So, that seems a positive use of time, no?
> > >
> > > It depends--was the hazing related to the homicides?
> >
> > I can't answer that; I don't know the story.
> > > > >
> > > > > The chancellor's decision to attend the Vagina
Monologues (and
> to
> > > be recognized by the Vagina Warriors) raises serious questions
> about
> > > her > judgment. But I also wonder where the Board of Trustees
> stands
> > on a > few > > issues. For example:
> > > >
> > > > I'd support her.
> > >
> > > You're on the Board of Trustees?
> >
> > The word "I'd" indicates that if I were in the
position, "I'd"
> support
> > her.  Had I used the word "I'll" would be another
matter.  Words mean
> > things.
>
> I know, I was being a smartass.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Does the Board condemn the use of the
"c-word" as degrading
> to
> > > > women? Or
> > > > > do they, like (recently resigned) Colorado
University President
> > > > Elizabeth
> > > > > Hoffman, think the word is sometimes endearing?
> > > >
> > > > The word has been taken away from bitter boys.
> > >
> > > Not really.  Any man I know of can still say the word.  All they've
> > > done to it was add a new level of foolishness to its use.
> >
> > Well, women having taken it into the open, only makes men appear
> > foolish and boorish when they use the word.  If a man wanted to use
> > that word to one of my female family members, I'd ask the DICKWAD
> what
> > he wanted. :-)
>
> Then you'd both be playing in the mud.
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Does the Board approve of the sale of sex-organ shaped
> > lollipops
> > > > at
> > > > > university-sponsored events?
> > > >
> > > > I see no problem with it;  you boys can have a penis shaped one.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd like to see everyone act like grownups and not be
> so
> > > obsessed with their genitalia.
> >
> > Tell that to the MEN who purchase thousands of dollars worth of
> > genitalia magazines every year.
>
> They're wasting their money.  However, the apparent difference between
> them and the vagina warriors running around doing the equivalent of
> shouting "pee-pee!" and "ca-ca!" because they
mistake offending and
> shocking people with empowering themselves is that those men are
> reading their magazines in private.  As are the women reading Playgirl.
>
> >  They started it.
>
> My mother used to use the "If everyone jumped off a bridge..." line
> with me.  Didn't yours use it with you?
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3a) Does the Board condemn the questioning of a six-year-old
> girl
> > > > about the
> > > > > smell of her vagina? b) Do they see this as evidence of
> > pedophilia?
> > > > c) Are
> > > > > they willing to condemn pedophilia, despite the
campus emphasis
> > on
> > > > moral
> > > > > relativism?
> > > >
> > > > No, questioning an actor PLAYING a child about their sex organs
> is
> > > not > pedophilia unless you're doing it for sexual stimulation.
> > >
> > > So then, as far as you're concerned, putting on a play in which
> > > domestic violence is portrayed in positive terms with positive
> > benefits
> > > would not tend to imply approval of its use (though, for the
> record,
> > I
> > > don't believe an actor in a play is evidence of pedophilia)?
> >
> > I don't see any positive benefits to pedophilia,
>
> Nor do I, which means you didn't read what I was saying.
>
> > nor is there any in
> > Vagina M.
>
> Positive benefits?  Or pedophilia?
>
> >  You are smoking dope.  :-)
>
> Not anymore.  I had to stop years ago.  However, I will admit that,
> during these debates, there are times when doing a bowl or two doesn't
> seem like such a bad idea.  ;)
>




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