From: "Rich Gauszka" 

I agree with you and the ACLU about the Florida story. I was just trying to
get you to agree with the ACLU for one of the few times in your life
.

I guess my point ( wasn't too good at explaining it though ) was that there
is still some truth to these stories and the Patriot Act can still be used
by bungling officials ( bankers etc ) to justify their actions. To a person
whose funds are frozen it is still a very real and traumatic event.

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:440d5921{at}w3....
> Even the ACLU, no friend of the Bush administration said it was the banks
> error and had nothing to do with the Patriot Act or Terrorist
> Surveillance.
>
> Another crap story that reveals its own crappiness in the last paragraph
> you
> quoted.  You can believe the retired school teacher pays his credit card
> and
> is whisked away to a secret CIA prison on Mars if you want.  I'm smarter
> than that.  You'll have to explain your own gullibility to yourself.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:440ca0e1$1{at}w3....
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:440c9cfa{at}w3....
>> > If somebody tells me that the moon is made of blue cheese, I don't need
>> > evidence to know its bullshit.  I'll leave it to the more
>> > intellectually
>> > curious set to try and pin down the evidence that negates the claim
>> > that
>> > the
>> > moon is made of blue cheese.
>> >
>> > Same thing for this piece of crap making the rounds on the internet no
>> > doubt.
>> >
>> > Fool me once (false commie book story by student) shame on you; fool me
>> > twice (false retired school teacher gets investigated for paying off
>> > his
>> > credit card story) shame on me.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:440c90c2$1{at}w3....
>> >> So Gary - Where is your evidence that this event did not occur?
>> >>
>>
>> Or you could have just looked up the story. Is this the neocon mantra?  -
> if
>> you can't see a story it  doesn't exist?
>>
>> How about this one?  ( banking f*ckup or Patriot Act? )
>>
>> http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2006/03/06/opinion/14740.shtml
>>
>>  Earlier last month, The Tampa Tribune printed a story about the nuns of
> the
>> Holy Name Monastery, based in St. Leo, Florida. The sisters said that the
>> monastery's main bank account was frozen without explanation last fall.
>> On
>> November 10, their checks started bouncing without warning, and the
> account
>> wouldn't accept any deposits, including paychecks from state agencies
> where
>> some of the sisters hold jobs. Many of the checks they wrote went to pay
>> Visa and utility bills; two of their checks had gone to other charities.
> The
>> nuns racked up $399.56 in fees, later reimbursed by their local Wachovia
>> bank. During the week that the account was frozen, 22 checks were
>> returned
>> with the unexplained (and slightly morbid) stamp, "Refer to
Maker."
>>
>>     Sister Jean Abbott, the monastery's business manager, told The Tampa
>> Tribune that they were informed they were implicated by the Patriot Act
>> because one 80-year-old nun who is a signatory to their account didn't
> have
>> her photo ID and Social Security number on file ("Clearly an
>> international
>> spy," said Abbott). But in the 116 years that the church has been in
>> business, the bank had never asked for any of that information. Like the
>> Soehnges, they'd been casualties of the Patriot Act's sloppy, ineffectual
>> and abusive banking provisions.
>>
>>     Chris Hansen, an American Civil Liberties Union staff attorney,
>> consulted for The Tampa Tribune article and noted that Wachovia may have
>> cited the Patriot Act in their explanation to the nuns to avoid taking
>> the
>> blame for their own idiocy. "It is our experience that there
are a lot of
>> things these days where people say, 'The Patriot Act made us do
it,' " he
>> said. "Often it's true, but it isn't always true."
>>
>>
>
>

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