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from: Steve Oostrom
date: 2003-03-08 22:46:40
subject: [trekcreative] STA#34

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>It is specified in the story that Sanjay Indesakar, Damiko Matsubara, Henr=
ietta
Vorwoorts, and Julia Bayanhong had all had previously experienced "Alternat= e
Memories"  Vorwoorts, and Bayanhong to the point of suffering serious
brain alteration at the hands of nano-probes, before Thorpe got to them.

Yes, but it took the stimulus that Thorpe offered them for the memories to
= connect and for
them to realize what they really were.

>I took it to mean that the Athena's Warp drive malfunction marked the chan=
ge in
time and that the interaction of the warp drive and the change in the timel= ine
acted to preserve the memories of the Athena's crew.

I deliberately left out why this happened, but it was not strictly a
malfun= ction of the warp
drive.  Something external caused it, but what it was was not fully
develop= ed in my mind.
I left that for another time.
=20
>But again, this leads back to the idea that some how memories are not sole=
ly or
exclusively a function of biochemical changes in the brain, and somehow exi= st
out side the body, at least in a strictly physical sense.

>I am not arguing the premise.  I think it's interesting.  I am just point =
ing
it out so you can develop it and play with it if you desire.

I'll keep that in mind.  It's almost like I'm leading somewhere without
rea= lly knowing that I
am going there.  I never really thought about those things, as I suspect it=
 would take somebody
reading the stories but without all the unwritten background that is in my
= mind only to come
to this conclusion.  Maybe I'm leaning in that direction.  As mentioned,
so= me ideas that
Odonans have about a possible afterlife hint at this.  Perhaps a future
sto= ry might expand
on this idea.

Steve
The Universe Unbounded.

Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com


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>It is specified in the story that Sanjay Indesakar,
Damiko Matsubara,
HenriettaVorwoorts, and Julia Bayanhong had all had previously
experienced "AlternateMemories"  Vorwoorts,
and Bayanhong to the point of suffering
serious brainalteration at the hands of nano-probes, before
Thorpe got to them.
Yes, but it took the stimulus that
Thorpe offered
them for the memories to connect and for
them to realize what they really
were.
 
>I took it to mean that the Athena's Warp drive
malfunction marked the
change intime and that the interaction of the warp drive and the
change in the timelineacted to preserve the memories of the
Athena's crew.
I deliberately left out why this
happened, but it
was not strictly a malfunction of the warp
drive.  Something
external caused it, but
what
it was was not fully developed in my mind.
I left that for another
time.
 >But again, this leads back to the
idea that some how
memories
are not solely orexclusively a function of biochemical changes in
the brain,
and somehow existout side the body, at least in a strictly
physical sense.>I am not arguing the
premise.  I think it's interesting.  I am just point
ingit out so you can develop it and play with it if you
desire.
I'll keep that in mind. 
It's almost like I'm
leading somewhere without really knowing that I
am going there.  I never
really thought about
those things, as I suspect it would take somebody
reading the stories but without
all the unwritten
background that is in my mind only to come
to this conclusion. 
Maybe I'm leaning in
that
direction.  As mentioned, some ideas that
Odonans have about a possible
afterlife hint at
this.  Perhaps a future story might expand
on this idea.
 
Steve
The Universe
Unbounded.
 
Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com;">http://ussathena.iwarp.comhttp://ussathena.iwarp.com">http://ussathena.iwarp.com;
 






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