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~> That one has Neilsen's testimony, not just a description by ~> someone else, and it is identical. But now you know that what was done to him was not even CLOSE to "identical." He was FORCED to ingest water to the point that he passed out. He WAS drowning. Then he was revived by being jumped on to push the water out. ~> EC> What he did describe was his REACTION to what ~> EC> the Japanese did: he felt like he was drowning. Gee whiz, ~> EC> Bob, WHY did he feel that way? It is because he WAS ~> EC> DROWNING. You have been educated several times on what the ~> EC> Japanese "water cure" involved, and either it hasn't stuck ~> EC> in your head or you are ignoring what you know in order to ~> EC> cover your lies with a plea of ignorance. ~> Now you are shooting off your mouth, or keyboard, and making ~> yourself look foolish. Nothing but empty bluster from you, and it doesn't change the facts. ~> EC> Another ignorance plea from you. He testified against four ~> EC> officers. They were convicted. Now, try to overcome your ~> EC> ignorance by naming the person or persons who were ~> EC> specifically convicted of waterboarding him in a manner ~> EC> "identical" to the CIA version of waterboarding. ~> Which is irrelevant to the point we were discussing Well, let's review what you were discussing: "You missed the fact that the method often used is described in terms identical to the methods used by US interrogators. And Japanese military were tried for war crimes for that." And yet you cannot name them. And more from you: "During WW2 both forms were used by the Japanese, and Japanese military personell, and some civilians, were prosecuted for using the same method the US interrogators." And yet you cannot name them. Not only can you not show who was CONVICTED for war crimes for using "the same method" that the US used on three terrorists six years ago, but you cannot even show that ANY Japanese interrogator EVER used "the same method" during World War II. You will make up some stuff, you will twist words, you will make sad little accusations, but you are not likely to name any names. You have been proven wrong so many times that you seem to be gun-shy about making any specific and factual claim. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5a* Origin: FidoTel & QWK on the Web! www.fidotel.com (1:124/311) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 187 140/1 226/0 249/303 SEEN-BY: 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 280/1027 320/119 SEEN-BY: 396/45 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 SEEN-BY: 2320/105 5030/1256 @PATH: 124/311 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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