~>> ~>>  I notice you have abandoned
~>> ~>>  your claim that the japanese pumped people full of water as
~>> ~>>  their method of waterboarding, which was the issue.
 EC>
~>>  EC> That was never "the issue" of the thread.  It was
~>>  EC> established historical fact.  And your suggestion that I
~>>  EC> "abandoned" the fact is just another pathetic
strawman that
~>>  EC> you made up and are now trying to attribute to me.
 EC>
~>>  Attribute to you?

 EC> Yes, you claimed that it was "abandoned" and you claimed
 EC> that it was I who abandoned it.  The historical evidence on
 EC> the nature of the Japanese "water cure" was clear, and you
 EC> once again ignored it.

 It had appeared you had abandoned your assertion that there was
 only one or two water cures that were nothing like the US
 method. As I said, "as their method of waterboarding." Since
 then you keep coming back to it, even though you must have seen
 the posts I have sent you.

 From lawofwar.org/protected persons.htm
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 Consider then, this testimony about his treatment in Tokyo,by
 CPT Chase Nielsen a member of the aircrew of one of the bombers
 on the Doolittle Raid against Japan in April, 1942. Captain
 Nielsen was captured by the Japanese in China and returned to
 Japan for interrogation.

 Q: What other physical treatment was administered to you at
 that time?

 A: Well, I was given what they call the water cure.

 Q: Explain to the Commission what that was.

 A: Well, I was put on my back on the floor with my arms and legs
 stretched out, one guard holding each limb. The towel was
 wrapped around my face and put across my face and water was
 poured on. They poured water on this towel until I was almost
 unconscious from strangulation, then they would let me up until
 I'd get my breath, then they'd start over again.

 Q: When you regained consciousness would they keep asking you
 questions?

 A: Yes sir they did.

 Q: How long did this treatment continue?

 A: About twenty minutes.

 Q: What was your sensation when they were pouring water on the
 towel, what did you physically feel?

 A: Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning, just gasping
 between life and death.

 /United States v. Sawada/ et a., Trial Record, Volume I,
 p.55.18 March, 1946.
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BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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