~>  I notice you have abandoned
~>  your claim that the japanese pumped people full of water as
~>  their method of waterboarding, which was the issue.

That was never "the issue" of the thread.  It was established historical
fact.  And your suggestion that I "abandoned" the fact is just another
pathetic strawman that you made up and are now trying to attribute to me.

It was established, for example, in the judgment of the International
Military Tribunal - Far East, in Chapter 8, p. 1059: "To indicate the
prevalence of torture and the uniformity of the methods employed we give a
brief summary of these methods.

The so-called "water treatment" was commonly applied. The victim was bound
or otherwise secured in a prone position; and water was forced through his
mouth and nostrils into his lungs and stomach until he lost consciousness.
Pressure was then applied, sometimes by jumping upon his abdomen to force
the water out. The usual practice was to revive the victim and successively
repeat the process. There was evidence that this torture was used in the
following places: China, at Shanghai, Peiping and Nanking; French
Indo-China, at Hanoi and Saigon; Malaya, at Singapore; Burma, at Kyaikto;
Thailand, at Chumporn; Andaman Islands, at Port Blair; Borneo, at
Jesselton; Sumatra, at Medan, Tadjong Karang and Palembank; Java, at
Batavia, Bandung, Soerabaja and Buitennzong; Celebes, at Makassar;
Portuguese Timor, at Ossu and Dilli; Philippines, at Manila, Nichols Field,
Palo Beach and Dumaguete; Formosa, at Camp Haito; and in Japan, at Tokyo."

THAT is the practice that YOU claim is identical to what was done by the US
to three terrorists six years ago.  "During WW2 both forms were used by the
Japanese, and Japanese military personell, and some civilians, were
prosecuted for using the same method the US interrogators."  And for all of
your blithering and diversions, you cannot show that it is even close to
being "the same."

 
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