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Subject: Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 18:38:26 -0600
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:46:04 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
 wrote:

>In message , 
>james@nospam.com writes:
>>I have an old Lenovo t-43 laptop running XP. It has a 40gb hard drive,
>>which is too small for my needs. With the OS, and the programs I use,
>[]
>>80gb hard drive. I found a 160gb drive for $3 more than an 89gb, so I
>>bought the 160gb.
>>
>>I dont have the drive yet, but when I get it, I want to clone the
>>current drive to the new one, so I dont have to reinstall everything.
>>But how do I do this?
>>
>>Laptops dont have space for a second HDD. (at least mine dont).
>
>Does it have an optical drive?
>>
>>I have one of those cable kits that is for hooking any 3.5" IDE or SATA
>>drive to a USB port. It dont have the plug for these 2.5" drives, so I
>>assume I will have to buy one made for these 2.5" laptop drives.
>
>All the ones I've seen have a plug with two sides to it: one for the 
>3.5" drives, and one for the 2.5" drives. (With the ones that do SATA as 
>well having the SATA connector in the middle of that plug.) I'd be 
>surprised if, if it does SATA, it doesn't also do 2.5".
>>
>>(Do they sell adaptor kits for these laptop drives?)
>>(Are they labeled for these kind of drives)?
>>
>>Once I buy the adaptor, I think all I have to do is run Partition Magic
>>8, (which I have) to clone the drive.
>
>Cloning _from within the OS you're running_ is IMO flaky to do, though 
>some utilities (certainly Macrium, I don't know about PM) claim to be 
>able to. If you'll be running it on another computer, i. e. just using 
>the drive passively, that should be fine.
>
>Make sure you clone C: and any unlettered ("hidden") partitions. (For a 
>40G drive, just cloning the whole drive is probably easiest.)
>>
>>But once it's cloned, will it boot, or do I need to do something to make
>>it bootable?
>
>When I did it - though I imaged C: and the hidden to an image on an 
>external drive, then restored from that image to the new (bigger) drive, 
>rather than cloning - it booted, though the first time some Samsung 
>recovery software cut in and offered to run (it's a Samsung netbook), so 
>I let it, and after a few minutes my old desktop appeared as before. (I 
>then used a partition manager to enlarge C: and recreate D:. It is 
>possible I might have been able to do that at the restoring-image stage: 
>I just wanted to do one thing at a time.)
>>
>>But then I was wondering if it's possible to clone the drive to a 64gb
>>flash drive, then clone it from the flash drive to the new HDD? The only
>>problem there, is that this computer can not be booted from a USB drive,
>>so I will probably have to borrow a newer laptop to clone from the USB
>>to the new HDD.
>
>Sounds like you only have the one PC, so you would ...
>>
>>Will that even work?
>>
>>
>But, especially given that you have that cable set, I'd get another 
>drive - whatever's cheapest, probably a 3.5" SATA one; that way you can 
>image the present drive to the external drive, IMO using a boot CD made 
>using Macrium or Acronis so you don't have to do it from inside XP, then 
>(again using the boot CD) restore from the image to the new drive: that 
>way, you'll still have the external drive to make backup images on in 
>future. Always good to make backups! (As I know to my cost! my HD just 
>stopped spinning one day; the heads (or probably only one) had stuck to 
>the platter, probably due to overheating. Fortunately, when I gave up 
>all else and actually opened the drive in a clean cabinet, I was able to 
>free them/it, and the drive then worked well enough to extract the 
>image.)


Thanks for all the replies. 
I bought on ebay, two 40 pin (3.5" drive) to 44pin (2.5" laptop drive)
connectors. 

Here is the plan, I hope it will work.

I have a desktop puter with XP booting from a SATA drive. There is a IDE
connector on the motherboard. The plan is to connect both the old 40gb
drive and the new 160gb drive to that IDE connector, using those
adaptors. I hope it boots from the SATA drive, not the OS on that 40gb
drive. (I dont know if there is a way to control that). If it works to
that point, I will simply run Partition Magic from the boot drive, and
clone that 40gb to the 160gb drive.

Ques: If I clone that whole 40gb drive, will I get a 40gb partition on
the new drive? Actually, that would be fine. I will keep the 40gb
partition as the boot one, and the remaining 120gb will be for
downloading and storing videos and music. 

Before cloning, I may dump my current music and videos to a flash drive,
so there is less to clone. THe main thing that needs to be cloned is the
OS and the programs.

I can move that file storage back from the flash drive later.

One other thing, will XP need to be re verified with MS due to the new
hard drive?
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