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echo: barktopus
to: George Sherwood
from: Gary Wiltshire
date: 2006-03-14 15:04:58
subject: Re: Huh? A genuine Rumsfled LOL

From: "Gary Wiltshire" 

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:28:47 -0500, George Sherwood
 wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:51:09 +0100, Phil Payne wrote:
>
>>> So?  You saw mere tokens left to impress tourist rubes about the
>>> freedom of the wonderful USSR.
>>
>> I had lots of long conversations with Russians and other nationalities
>> in which trhey were HIGHLY critical of theis state.  In the Asian parts
>> especially about the agricultural programmes that were (and have) ruined
>> their ecology.
>>
>> A guided tour, at one point, of hundreds of tons of cotton rotting
>> because its quality was too poor for the world market - followed by a
>> discussion of how the diversion of rivers to irrigate that crop had
>> started the destruction of the Aral Sea.
>>
>> You believe too much of what you're spoonfed by the US' propaganda
>> machine. You really ought to get out there and see for yourself.  The
>> USSR was a sad disaster in many ways, ƒ'but it was nothing like your
>> picture of it.
>>
>> (Or my father's.  He referred to it as "the worker's
paradise" up to the
>> day he died.  Riiight.)
>
> I think you are the one being fed the propaganda here.  If I recall
> correctly Gary W. went to school in Russia and speaks fluently.  I will
> take his opinion about events there over the show you were given.
>
> You don't talk at all of the more then 500 churches that were ripped down
> in Moscow. They kept a few for show and used them to store tractors and
> at
> times animals.  I explained to my Russian teacher today your statements
> and she also says you are full of shit.  Of course in a much nicer
> Russian
> way.  As she told me, you got to see exactly what they wanted you to see.
>
> George
>
>

On s uma soshyol.

--
Gary Wiltshire

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