From: "Gary Britt" 

Monte you are usually not this woefully ill informed.  In the past couple
of years the case that served as the final straw on this particular camel's
back was a US Supreme Court decision on Cruel and Unusual punishment as it
relates to the death penalty for certain murderers.  In that case the
majority of the Supreme Court, AMENDED via fiat the definition of what is
Cruel and Unusual punishment, and in making the monarchial POLICY DECISION
which merely substituted these 5 or 6 judges opinions for the opinions of
the elected representatives of the GOVERNED, these judges EXPLICITLY STATED
AND QUOTED trends and decisions and government policies current existing in
Europe and elsewhere as one of their central themes in unconstitutionally
amending and changing the meaning of the words cruel and unusual punishment
that were written into our constitution CENTURIES before these NON USA
trends and policies were adopted.

The fact that people like you can pretend not to understand what's wrong
with a handful of unelected judges using the POLICY decisions of France and
other countries to overrule the POLICY decisions of a USA elected
legislature is a heck of a lot more scary than George Bush reading some
terrorists library card.

Further, your ignorance of Justice Breyer's continued writings and speeches
directly citing and arguing for the use of current FOREIGN laws and social
policies as a basis for determining the meaning of a USA constitution that
was written centuries earlier discloses a lot about knee jerk reactions by
you and those like you.

Gary

"Monte Davis"  wrote in message
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> Bill Lucy  wrote:
>
> >I consider this whole thing to be a straw man.
>
> Of course it is. The frothers can't point to a single instance, in any
> US court, where foreign law or jurisprudence has determined a ruling.
> The entire "controversy" is pumped up around a pretense that it has...
> and around the even more absurd notion that judges never, ever cite
> anything other than the US Constitution, statutes and precedents --
> when they frequently do, and frequently have, for 217 years.

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