From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Gary Wiltshire wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:48:23 -0500, Monte Davis
>   wrote:
>
>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote:
>>
>>> this url:
>>>
>>> http://www.uncp.edu/home/canada/work/allam/16071783/history/history.htm
>>>
>>> shows the English-derived population at 50 percent.
>>
>>
>> I gave numbers for the UK, which included Scotland, Ireland, and Wales
>> (which by your source would bring it to something over 65%; my 75%
>> also tallies with Fischer's "Albion's Seed") Nearly all
spoke English;
>> neither Gaelic nor Welsh was ever more than a local niche tongue here.
>
>
> The last time I checked the Irish and the Welsh are not "English."
>

Not now. Then Ireland & Wales were very definitely run by the English.

>>
>> Someone else has already debunked your passing on of the "Muhlenberg
>> legend" about how threatened English was vis-a-vis German in the
>> colonies. In fact, it never was; in fact, there has never been any
>> doubt since 1700 at the latest that we would retain the language and a
>> very large part of the whole cultural complex of the UK. Not in 1790,
>> not during the immigration panic of 1895-1920, not during the
>> immigration panic redux today, and not during your ongoing Anglophobe
>> pissing match with Adam and Phil.
>
>
> You can survey 100 people in, say, Pennsylvania.  60 might truthfully
> say  they have English ancestry.  Out of the same 100 people 60 can also
> say  they have German ancestry.  There are damned few of us walking
> around who  are "pure bloods."  Even at the onset of the revolution we
> were a mongrel  lot.
>

Give the man a prize. What out of interest is an english "true
blood"? Blimey so you're mongrels bred from mongrels. Oh I'm pure
english...my mum was a hugenot & my dad was a danish/irish....


>>
>> Re Vermont: Good point. Very important. Changes the whole picture. You
>> win.
>
>
> It goes to just how reliable I consider the presenter.  It is a glaring
> error.  Per what I just said above, I have to wonder just how a person
> was  counted as "English" or some other nationality.
>

Including counting someone as "American".

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