From: "Gary Wiltshire" 

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:12:58 -0500, Adam field.near the bridge">
 wrote:

> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:48:23 -0500, Monte Davis
>>   wrote:
>>
>>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> this url:
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.uncp.edu/home/canada/work/allam/16071783/history/history.htm
>>>>
>>>> shows the English-derived population at 50 percent.
>>>
>>>
>>> I gave numbers for the UK, which included Scotland, Ireland, and Wales
>>> (which by your source would bring it to something over 65%; my 75%
>>> also tallies with Fischer's "Albion's Seed") Nearly
all spoke English;
>>> neither Gaelic nor Welsh was ever more than a local niche tongue here.
>>
>>
>> The last time I checked the Irish and the Welsh are not "English."
>>
>
> Not now. Then Ireland & Wales were very definitely run by the English.
>
>>>
>>> Someone else has already debunked your passing on of the
"Muhlenberg
>>> legend" about how threatened English was vis-a-vis German in the
>>> colonies. In fact, it never was; in fact, there has never been any
>>> doubt since 1700 at the latest that we would retain the language and a
>>> very large part of the whole cultural complex of the UK. Not in 1790,
>>> not during the immigration panic of 1895-1920, not during the
>>> immigration panic redux today, and not during your ongoing Anglophobe
>>> pissing match with Adam and Phil.
>>
>>
>> You can survey 100 people in, say, Pennsylvania.  60 might truthfully
>> say  they have English ancestry.  Out of the same 100 people 60 can also
>> say  they have German ancestry.  There are damned few of us walking
>> around who  are "pure bloods."  Even at the onset of the
revolution we
>> were a mongrel  lot.
>>
>
> Give the man a prize. What out of interest is an english "true blood"?
> Blimey so you're mongrels bred from mongrels. Oh I'm pure english...my
> mum was a hugenot & my dad was a danish/irish....
>
>
>>>
>>> Re Vermont: Good point. Very important. Changes the whole picture. You
>>> win.
>>
>>
>> It goes to just how reliable I consider the presenter.  It is a glaring
>> error.  Per what I just said above, I have to wonder just how a person
>> was  counted as "English" or some other nationality.
>>
>
> Including counting someone as "American".

I certainly count my self as an "American" rather than a
Czech-Quebecois-Iroqois-Irish-Scottish-Welsh-Englishman.

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Gary Wiltshire

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