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to: Adam
from: Gary Wiltshire
date: 2006-03-15 02:38:12
subject: Re: Country heading toward dictatorship - Sandra Day O`Connor

From: "Gary Wiltshire" 

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:09:24 -0500, Adam field.near the bridge">
 wrote:

> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:26:40 -0500, Adam 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:34:00 -0500, Adam field.near the
bridge">
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Geo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge">
>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:44169599$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many laws do you have in the UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lots & lots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a reason I asked (perhaps I should have
started a new
>>>>>> thread).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've always wondered why nobody asked a judge that
question when
>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> claim ignorance of the law as a defense. Because
if nobody can
>>>>>> answer  that
>>>>>> question of "how many laws do we have"
then how the hell can
>>>>>> anyone  know
>>>>>> what is and isn't legal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> First rule of law: Ignorance of the law is no defence.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your "unwritten constitution" made me
think about that again. How
>>>>>> can  you
>>>>>> enforce something that isn't written down?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Convention & tradition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>  Even Hammurabi did it better than you.
>>>>  --Gary Wiltshire
>>>
>>>
>>> Obviously not. How well is Babylon & the rest of the
fertile crescent
>>> doing these days? A Model of law & order?
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>
>> Hammurabi ain't ruling the region now, but at least there were laws,
>> whether "fair" or not, objectively recorded and
available to public
>> verification.
>>
>
> We have that too. We write them on bits of paper presented as "bills"
> put before "parliament" who then vote on them & the vote
is recorded.
> Maybe you could try that.
>
> Adam

You still have a "constitution" which only is what you say it is
from moment to moment.  That is what we are trying to stop from happening
here.

--
Gary Wiltshire

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