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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-03-18 14:17:14
subject: Re: More lies

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

Propaganda works when you can maintain it. Will we be into Operation
Swarmer XIIV by summertime?

For me the key to Swarmer is if the Iraqis get a morale boost from it.  If
not, and the situation in Iraq disintegrates even further, Bush's rating
will most likely plummet to historic lows.

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:441c58f5{at}w3....
> Propaganda is more effective when you get the guys that don't normally
> spout the party line to report about it.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:441c4d91$1{at}w3....
>>I don't usually watch FoxNews 
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:441c4039$1{at}w3....
>>> >may be used for a morale boost to a fledgling Iraqi force - nothing
>>> >more.
>>>
>>> And for propaganda here at home?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:441c2f75$1{at}w3....
>>>> Here's something I don't understand. It's a guerilla war
in Iraq. They
>>>> won't stand and fight pitched battles for territory - just slip away
>>>> and cause havoc another day.  IMO 'Swarmer'  may be used
for a morale
>>>> boost to a fledgling Iraqi force - nothing more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "George Sherwood" 
wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2006.03.18.15.35.40.279819{at}beernabeer.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:27:26 -0600, John Cuccia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:39:49 -0500,
"Mark" 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is the rewrite what you'd prefer to read too
John? Not me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm..."Operation Swarmer" is suddenly
out of the news, no longer
>>>>>> trumpted by the US government as an indication
that we've "turned the
>>>>>> corner" in Iraq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe that it was indeed a routine mission to
clear an area that
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> already been cleared before and that US officials
decided to to turn
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> into a PR exercise as part of the Bush Administration's new
>>>>>> initiative
>>>>>> to re-sell the war to America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also believe that the Iraqi army has been
infiltrated with people
>>>>>> sympathetic to one militant group or another to
such an extent that
>>>>>> these kinds of missions will never be productive,
because any
>>>>>> potential
>>>>>> targets have been warned well in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the actual link from the Government about
"Operation Swarmer".
>>>>> So
>>>>> me where it is: "trumpted by the US government as
an indication that
>>>>> we've
>>>>> "turned the corner" in Iraq."  Not the
interpretation of the press,
>>>>> but as
>>>>> you said trumpted by the US Government.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Releases/Mar/060316c.html
>>>>>
>>>>>    Iraqi Security Forces and their Coalition partners
launched the
>>>>>    largest air assault operation since Operation Iraqi
Freedom I today
>>>>> in
>>>>>    southern Salah Ad Din province to clear a suspected insurgent
>>>>>    operating area northeast of Samarra.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Operation Swarmer began this morning with soldiers
from the Iraqi
>>>>>    Army's 1st Brigade, 4th Division, the 101st
Airborne Division's 3rd
>>>>>    Brigade Combat Team and the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade
>>>>> conducting a
>>>>>    combined air and ground assault to isolate the
objective area.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Attack and assault aircraft provided aerial weapons
support for the
>>>>>    operation and also delivered troops from the Iraq Army's 4th
>>>>> Division,
>>>>>    the Rakkasans from 1st and 3rd Battalions, 187th
Infantry Regiment
>>>>> and
>>>>>    the Hunters from 2nd Squadron, 9th Cavalry Regiment
to multiple
>>>>>    objectives. Forces from the 2nd Commando Brigade
then completed a
>>>>>    ground infiltration to secure numerous structures
in the area.
>>>>>
>>>>>    More than 1,500 Iraqi and Coalition troops, over 200 tactical
>>>>>    vehicles, and more than 50 aircraft participated in
the operation.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Initial reports from the objective area indicate
that a number of
>>>>>    enemy weapons caches have been captured, containing artillery
>>>>> shells,
>>>>>    explosives, IED-making materials, and military uniforms.
>>>>>
>>>>>    The operation is expected to continue for several days as a
>>>>> thorough
>>>>>    search of the objective area is conducted.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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