for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:55:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "WHITE"  [John White]
To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" 
Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Books - Tim Good on Alien Bases
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:18:13 -0700
EBK, List, et al., and to Phil who wrote:
>From: Psdx1  [Phil Danielson]
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:55:26 EST
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Books - Tim Good on Alien Bases

>Having spent years working on underground alien
>bases, I can't wait for Tim's book on it.
>Phil Danielson
>psdx1@aol.com
Phil:
I was intrigued by your report:  Straightforward, succinct, and
loaded for bear.  But we need a little help to get started:
What do you mean by "underground alien bases?"
What first led you to believe that you were working on
underground alien bases?
Are you currently working on underground alien bases?  If so,
what work are you doing?
If you are not currently working on underground alien bases, what
work were you doing while working on underground alien bases?
If you are currently working on underground alien bases, is there
anyone else working with you?
If so, who are they, and what work are they doing?
If there are any others present, who are not working with you,
who are they and why are they present?
If you are not currently working on underground alien bases, why
aren't you?
Have you communicated your experiences regarding working on
underground alien bases to anyone not on this List?  And if so,
who?
List the locations of the underground alien bases on which you
are currently working or on which you have worked in the past, in
chronological order, dating from the most recent to the past.
Phil, its rare to find someone with firsthand knowledge who is
willing to share it.  The information you have is invaluable.
Thank you for taking the time to help out on the questions.
John White  mjawhite@digitaldune.net
 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:59:34 -0500 (EST)
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto 
From: Mark Cashman 
Subject: re: UFO UpDate: Re: UFO Studies
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:20:11 -0800
>  From: William White 
>  Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: UFO Studies
>  To: updates@globalserve.net (UFO UpDates - Toronto)
>  Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:08:10 -0500 (EST)
(snip on suggestion that gravity propulsion is likely candidate)
>  Yes, but to my knowledge nobody's been able to demonstrate anti-
>  gravity (yes I remember the hi-temp superconductor thing but I
>  never heard of any reliable reproduction of the effect, and
>  besides that affected gravity above the device, not within it).
>  Does general relativity even permit it?  Then again I wouldn't
>  know a tensor field if it bit me on the posterior, so I may be
>  totally wrong.
Relativity would not permit anti-gravity, since in relativity,
gravity is the curvature of space. Quantum gravity probably
would, since a graviton could be expected to have an
anti-particle.
Still, anti-gravity isn't necessarily the way to go. A strong
gravity force from above an object in the local gravity field
would be able to generate the same effect as anti-gravity on that
object.
There is, at this point, a noticeable number of cases of "gravity
anomalies" in the presence of UFOs. As I recall, there is one
case where an object flew over a truck and the truck lifted and
was turned over; another where a witness was walking his horse,
and as the object passed over, the horse lifted into the air and
then dropped. A few other cases, such a a disk hovering above the
ocean with the water domed up beneath it, and some of the odd
holes left behind as ground traces may also be indicative.
One thing's for sure, though - ejection of the vast majority of
particles in some sort of advanced reaction drive is not an
option, since most of them generate incredible amounts of
radiation or heat when produced in volumes sufficient to lift
objects in the tens of tons range.
Not to mention that 20-100 gravity accelerations without some
sort of local gravity field would mean that UFO occupants would
have to scrape themselves off the deck with a spatula after a
typical UFO departure.
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