On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:31:21 +0200, M.O.B. i L. wrote:

> On Mon, 29 May 2017 12:27:25 GMT alister 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 12:57:54 +0200, M.O.B. i L. wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 29 May 2017 09:58:42 +0100 Folderol 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:12:43 +0200 "M.O.B. i L." 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, 28 May 2017 22:44:25 +0200 "A. Dumas"
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 28/05/2017 21:38, M.O.B. i L. wrote:
>> >> > > > This comment (above) was censored from raspberrypi.org, and
>> >> > > > this shows they can't handle free speech.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I know that you didn't quite say that your right to free speech
>> >> > > was violated, but
>> >> >
>> >> > You have the right to not support an organization that is against
>> >> > free speech in comments to their articles. In this age with
>> >> > terrorism against children we should be able to discuss how to
>> >> > best stop it. But CoderDojo and Raspberry Pi Foundation does not
>> >> > even allow mentors to have a very private discussion about this
>> >> > topic completely outside of CoderDojo.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a recording of the last phone meeting from the CoderDojo
>> >> > Foundation:
>> >> > https://youtu.be/fXdqEEOmU4E (52 min)
>> >> >
>> >> > I was active mentor in CoderDojo once a week from 2013-2016.
>> >> >
>> >> > This was how I started:
>> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coderdojo-lund/33Ohm2Xo7s4/
>> CFUl1byEpK4J
>> >> >
>> >> > This was my last message so far:
>> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coderdojo-lund/bbIbHuDACFQ/EPH9q1-
>> aBgAJ
>> >>
>> >> Erm...
>> >> If your very private conversation was completely outside, how would
>> >> they know about it?
>> >
>> > I answered a friends post on Facebook and he had a friend that was a
>> > radical islamist, and that guy contacted CoderDojo and lied about me.
>> > It's all explained in the link below the video. This islamist had
>> > probably searched online and noticed that I was a mentor in
>> > CoderDojo. He didn't normally have anything to do with CoderDojo. He
>> > just wanted in general to destroy what he perceived as threats to the
>> > islamist agenda. CoderDojo should not be tricked by this.
>>
>> So it wasn't a comet made in private it was a public statement
>>
>> Posting on Facebook unless you have restricted it to invited friends
>> only (& I don't trust Facebook to honour anything regarding privacy)
>> then you are doing the equivalent of taking out a full page add in the
>> Times.
>>
>> the same applies to twitter & all of the other social media (including
>> this newsgroup) that people use insist on misusing for "private"
>> conversations.
>
> I replied to a post to only friends.

Clearly not as it was visible to someone who found it offensive
>
> But I think a CoderDojo mentor should be allowed to write what I wrote
> even if they do so publicly. There is nothing illegal about it. But I
> don't think one should discuss politics inside the CoderDojo since there
> one should only teach programming.

whilst i defend your right to hold & voice whatever opinions you may have
- even if i do not agree with them I do have sympathy with CoderDojo on
this.

As a mentor you are in a position of authority & it is right for Coder
Dojo to make sure its mentors are not trying to politically motivate
students (in any direction) BUT if there is no indication that these
opinions are being expressed in that environment then their actions as
described do seem heavy handed.







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