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>>>>>>> "Jeff North"
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:30:36 GMT, in
alt.politics.homosexuality
>>>>>>>> "Patriot Games"

>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff North"
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:19:43 GMT, in
>>>>>>>>>>> alt.politics.homosexuality
"Patriot Games"
>>>>>>>>>>>
 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dionisio"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff
North"  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gawd also
condones child sex - Lott and his daughters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lott condoned, not God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can hear the
attorneys now... "Objection, Your Honor!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a matter of
record that Lot was intoxicated, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not of sound mind,
nor in his right mind at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, his
condition -- again a matter of record --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was caused by the
juvenile delinquents (erm, daughters)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in question, whom
deliberately and willfully took gross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of his
emotional despondency (not to mention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his person) for
their own hedonistic purposes! Lot is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the victim of this
crime, not the perpetrator!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, His
Honor, agreed, for Lot did not die as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of engaging
in incest; As mandated in Leviticus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show where Lott
committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>>> Go ask your preacher to finish
the story of S&G for you.
>>>>>>>>>> You can't show where Lott
committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahhaha!!!
>>>>>>>>
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=9
>>>>>>>> 31And the firstborn said unto the younger,
Our father is old,
>>>>>>>> and there is not a man in the earth to
come in unto us after
>>>>>>>> the manner of all the earth:
>>>>>>>> 32Come, let us make our father drink wine,
and we will lie with
>>>>>>>> him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
>>>>>>>> 33And they made their father drink wine
that night: and the
>>>>>>>> firstborn went in, and lay with her
father; and he perceived
>>>>>>>> not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
>>>>>>>> 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that
the firstborn said
>>>>>>>> unto the younger, Behold, I lay
yesternight with my father:
>>>>>>>> let us make him drink wine this night
also; and go thou in,
>>>>>>>> and lie with him, that we may preserve
seed of our father.
>>>>>>>> 35And they made their father drink wine
that night also: and
>>>>>>>> the younger arose, and lay with him; and
he perceived not when
>>>>>>>> she lay down, nor when she arose.
>>>>>>>> 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with
child by their
>>>>>>>> father. 37And the first born bare a son,
and called his name
>>>>>>>> Moab: the same is the father of the
Moabites unto this day.
>>>>>>>> 38And the younger, she also bare a son,
and called his name
>>>>>>>> Benammi: the same is the father of the
children of Ammon unto
>>>>>>>> this day.
>>>>>>> "...and he perceived not when she lay
down, nor when she
>>>>>>> arose...." He was raped.  While unconscious.
>>>>>> Think about the story for a moment...  There he
was, drunk on his
>>>>>> ass, unconscious, or at most semi-conscious, yet
this guy, at
>>>>>> least middle age and probably older given that the average
>>>>>> lifespan was 45 or 50, was able to achieve and maintain an
>>>>>> errection long enough for his daughters to rape him.
>>>>> So the story goes...
>>>>>> The entire story is so cockamamie that it's laughable.
>>>>> Yep, but there it is....
>>>>> I didn't write it...
>>>> You just believe it is something more than a fairytale.
>>> Yep, more than a fairytale.
>> Not really, that's all it is.
>
> Your opinion.

Not really, just poking at the logical flaws in the tale is pretty
conclusive proof that it was either made up, or based very, and I stress,
very loosely on something that may have happened.   Either way, a fable, or
fairytale.


>
> Thanks for sharing....

No problem, let me know if I can educate you further.

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