From: "Gary Wiltshire" 

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:53:36 -0500, Mark  wrote:

> Actually,  I meant it was the "progressives" that don't like him. Not
> that
> he is.
>
> I think his words in the quote attributed to him have probably long since
> been clarified by him, but basically he's right, is there really a need
> for
> each and every student to study and master calculus?  options also provide the desired result of engaging the brain and
> teaching
> it how to reason exist?>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:44238349$1{at}w3....
>> Yep Neil's really progressive GMAB
>>
>> http://www.nndb.com/people/505/000026427/
>>
>> During a 2002 appearance at Whitney High School in Cerritos, California,
>> Neil Bush told the audience of assembled high schoolers that nobody
>> actually wants to study calculus, declaring that they shouldn't be
>> "forced
>> to study something a kid thinks is terribly useless and obscure."
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:44237c9d{at}w3....
>>> So, is "Ignite" really as bad as "they"
make it out to be, or is it
>>> just
>>> a case of "other educators" being unhappy with it
because it's by a
>>> Bush?
>>>
>>> I mean like are "other educators" unhappy with NCLB
too, because it
>>> measures their progress? Or is it, basically that,
"progressives" don't
>>> like accountability much, unless they're the ones wielding the hammer?
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:442366d6$1{at}w3....
>>>> It's just tacky way to give a charitable contribution while making
>>>> sure
>>>> your son gets the benefits.
>>>>
>>>> Remember this is the Neil Bush of Silverado fame
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A35297-2003Dec27?language=printer
>>>>
>>>> However, Ignite! has been attacked by other educators for
dumbing down
>>>> history. Among its controversial aspects is a lesson that
depicts the
>>>> Seminole Wars in a cartoon football game -- "the
Jacksons vs. the
>>>> Seminoles" -- the animated Indians smashing helmets
with animated
>>>> white
>>>> settlers. The Constitutional Convention is taught in a rap song:
>>>> It was 55 delegates from 12 states
>>>>
>>>> Took one hot Philadelphia summer to create
>>>>
>>>> A perfect document for their imperfect times
>>>>
>>>> Franklin, Madison, Washington -- a lot of the cats
>>>>
>>>> Who used to be in the Continental Congress way back.
>>>>
>>>> Ignite! is working well, Bush wrote in an e-mail: "Teachers and
>>>> students
>>>> have given anecdotal feedback that confirms the powerful impact our
>>>> program is having on student achievement, student focus
and attitudes,
>>>> and teacher success in reaching all of their students."
>>>>
>>>> But at Whitney reviews were less laudatory. "The kids
felt pretty
>>>> strongly that what this was about was lowering the
bar," says Humes.
>>>>
>>>> Humes wasn't impressed, either. "There was a lot of rhyming and
>>>> games,"
>>>> he says. "It reminded me of what my son uses -- but he's in
>>>> kindergarten."
>>>>
>>>> When Bush spoke at Whitney, several students began arguing with him.
>>>>
>>>> "He was very surprised," Humes recalls.
"You had to see the look on
>>>> his
>>>> face when one young woman got up and said she liked
calculus. He said
>>>> it
>>>> was useless. This is the branch of mathematics that makes
space travel
>>>> possible, and he said it was useless."
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in
message news:44235f81{at}w3....
>>>>> I'm not familiar with "Ignite" is it a bad
program or something, or
>>>>> does it work well to help students learn?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:44235d63{at}w3....
>>>>>> Propping up Neil Bush while calling it charity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/14170174.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barbara Bush earmarked Katrina donation for son's company
>>>>>> HOUSTON - Former first lady Barbara Bush gave
relief money to the
>>>>>> Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund on the condition that it
be spent to buy
>>>>>> educational software from her son Neil's company.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
I guess we've all forgotten the tax benefits the Clintons discovered in
donating their underwear?


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Gary Wiltshire

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