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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert Comer
date: 2006-03-30 06:59:54
subject: Re: `If you believe that these are full and fair trials, you believe th

From: "Robert Comer" 

> Please name one single person that you personally know who has had their
> freedom imposed upon by Bush administration.  Please state what freedom
> was
> specifically involved and how specifically that specific person was
> affected.

Jose Padilla for one, imprisoned 3 years without being charged or allowed
to see a lawyer for the first couple of years.  How 'bout the rest of us
when our privacy has been compromised when our ISP has had to turn over
records? How about those of us that make international call and have been
monitored illegally? (bound to be some, otherwise Bush wouldn't be fighting
for it) And then there's the cases we really don't know about...

> That's of bullshit talk on this subject, but not a single victim that I'm
> aware of.

Only because you think *you* haven't been effected.

--
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:442b7623{at}w3....
> Please name one single person that you personally know who has had their
> freedom imposed upon by Bush administration.  Please state what freedom
> was
> specifically involved and how specifically that specific person was
> affected.
>
> That's of bullshit talk on this subject, but not a single victim that I'm
> aware of.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:442b15c9$1{at}w3....
>>
>> "John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>> news:n24m22hoi7l1oj03c0hpo5mtdge1fkuh4n{at}4ax.com...
>> > On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:20:53 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >>And the problem with this would be what?  If an alien
german operative
>> >
>> > How would you know that the person you picked up was an alien
>> > operative without a trial?  You are now advocating "guilty until
>> > proven innocent", or perhaps you just want to shoot first and ask
>> > questions later?
>> >
>> > You are willing to give the US Government carte blanche w/r/t
>> > detaining anyone they deem a suspicious character.   That is
>> > diametrically opposed to the principles upon which the Republic was
>> > founded.
>>
>> Many of the current principals of this administration are diametrically
>> opposed to a conservative base -  from spending, to big government, to
>> imposition of freedoms. Of course one of the definitions of neo- is 'new
> and
>> abnormal'  so I reckon neo-con it fits.
>>
>>
>
>

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