From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Merely pointing out that these were members of the executive branch which
is and has been since 2001 under the Bush Administration. Not WHOLLY
UNRELATED to the Bush administration as you stated.

My example is factually correct. I did not state or claim any illegal
activity by any political appointee or elected official. I did state there
was political pressure to find and convict. I will expand that to say there
was pressure to be seen doing something.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:442c338e{at}w3....
> Do you have any proof that the Bush administration encouraged prosecutors
> to
> fabricate evidence.  If not you're blowing smoke.
>
> Some police officers and prosecutors fabricate evidence and commit other
> wrongful acts in order to "win" because they convince themselves the
> person
> is guilty and "winning" is more important to them than following the
> rules.
> This has happened for decades and centuries inside and outside this
> country.
> Its not new, and its wholly unrelated to the Bush Administration or its
> policies with regard to Terrorist Surveillance Programs.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:442c2b90{at}w3....
>> Federal Prosecutor
>> FBI
>> Justice Department
>> Aftermath of 9/11
>> Increased investigations
>> Political pressure to find and convict
>>
>> Yep No connection to the administration whatsoever. Just another typical
>> crime.
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:442c2a1c{at}w3....
>> > The question was about the allegation that the Bush Administration was
>> > impinging rights and you give an example of a typical crime wholly
>> > unrelated
>> > to the Bush Administration.
>> >
>> > Your example counts for nothing.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:442c119c$1{at}w3....
>> >> You said to give you an example of a single person that had their
> freedom
>> >> imposed upon. Actually you tried to really limit the
question to your
>> >> advantage by limiting it to a person that I personally knew. I, in
> turn,
>> >> gave an example of an abuse that happened in this area.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:442c0fbc$1{at}w3....
>> >> > How are these alleged criminal actions by two individuals got
> anything
>> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > with President Bush and allegations that President
Bush is impinging
>> >> > the
>> >> > bill of rights for citizens.
>> >> >
>> >> > Answer:  None, Nada, Zippo.  Find a presidential
order telling these
>> >> > two
>> >> > guys to do what they did otherwise its just two guys
lying to get a
>> >> > conviction.  Not the first time its happened.  Its
happened for
> decades
>> >> > and
>> >> > centuries in every country on the face of the earth.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>> >> > news:442be7a2$1{at}w3....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:442b7623{at}w3....
>> >> >> > Please name one single person that you
personally know who has
>> >> >> > had
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > freedom imposed upon by Bush
administration.  Please state what
>> > freedom
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > specifically involved and how specifically
that specific person
> was
>> >> >> > affected.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's of bullshit talk on this subject,
but not a single victim
>> >> >> > that
>> >> > I'm
>> >> >> > aware of.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Others have cited names. Here's an example of abuse
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
> http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060330/METRO/603300397
>> >> >> Terror prosecutor indicted
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Feds charge Convertino lied and hid photographs
to win Detroit
>> >> >> convictions
>> >> >> in country's first terrorism case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DETROIT -- Richard G. Convertino, the one-time
federal prosecutor
> who
>> > won
>> >> >> two convictions in the nation's first terror
trial after September
> 11,
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> formally indicted Wednesday on charges that he
built that case on
>> > perjury
>> >> >> and deception.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The four-count indictment alleges Convertino and
Harry Raymond
>> >> >> Smith
>> > III,
>> >> > a
>> >> >> State Department security officer in Amman,
Jordan, concealed
>> > photographs
>> >> >> and lied under oath about a hospital in that
country that was
>> > supposedly
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> terrorist target. The pictures could have helped
the defense
>> >> >> attorneys,
>> >> >> authorities say.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "They put a lot of people through a lot of
misery. They didn't do
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> jobs," said William Swor, the attorney for
one of the men convicted
> in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The indictment marks another low point for the
government in the
>> >> > disastrous
>> >> >> Detroit sleeper cell case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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