From: "Robert Comer" 

> Padilla's rights were not infringed.  He's been granted more rights than
> any
> enemy traitor in history.

Bullshit Gary, held over without charge is ***ILLEGAL***, especially for 2
years, but it doesn't have to get to be near that long a time for it to be
illegal.

> You don't know of any specific person who has had their rights violated by
> an ISP and you can't present a single case of injury.

Yes, I do, me.  My injury is violation of my privacy.

> International calls have been subject to monitoring for decades.  That's
> not
> even something new.

Not without a warrant.

> As I suspected you haven't presented a single instance of a single person
> you know that has had any known injury.  Just made up bullshit, just like
> I
> said.  Rich presented even less than you.

Again, Padilla.  There were lots more btw...

--
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:442c0ee6{at}w3....
> Wrong!
>
> Padilla's rights were not infringed.  He's been granted more rights than
> any
> enemy traitor in history.
>
> You don't know of any specific person who has had their rights violated by
> an ISP and you can't present a single case of injury.  Its just a general
> non-specific theoretical complaint.  Guess what, the people who want to
> murder our children don't want to just do it in theory.
>
> International calls have been subject to monitoring for decades.  That's
> not
> even something new.
>
> As I suspected you haven't presented a single instance of a single person
> you know that has had any known injury.  Just made up bullshit, just like
> I
> said.  Rich presented even less than you.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:442bc935$1{at}w3....
>> > Please name one single person that you personally know who has had
>> > their
>> > freedom imposed upon by Bush administration.  Please state what freedom
>> > was
>> > specifically involved and how specifically that specific person was
>> > affected.
>>
>> Jose Padilla for one, imprisoned 3 years without being charged or allowed
> to
>> see a lawyer for the first couple of years.  How 'bout the rest of us
>> when
>> our privacy has been compromised when our ISP has had to turn over
> records?
>> How about those of us that make international call and have been
>> monitored
>> illegally? (bound to be some, otherwise Bush wouldn't be fighting for it)
>> And then there's the cases we really don't know about...
>>
>> > That's of bullshit talk on this subject, but not a single victim that
> I'm
>> > aware of.
>>
>> Only because you think *you* haven't been effected.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:442b7623{at}w3....
>> > Please name one single person that you personally know who has had
>> > their
>> > freedom imposed upon by Bush administration.  Please state what freedom
>> > was
>> > specifically involved and how specifically that specific person was
>> > affected.
>> >
>> > That's of bullshit talk on this subject, but not a single victim that
> I'm
>> > aware of.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:442b15c9$1{at}w3....
>> >>
>> >> "John Cuccia"  wrote
in message
>> >> news:n24m22hoi7l1oj03c0hpo5mtdge1fkuh4n{at}4ax.com...
>> >> > On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:20:53 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>And the problem with this would be what?  If an
alien german
> operative
>> >> >
>> >> > How would you know that the person you picked up was an alien
>> >> > operative without a trial?  You are now advocating
"guilty until
>> >> > proven innocent", or perhaps you just want to
shoot first and ask
>> >> > questions later?
>> >> >
>> >> > You are willing to give the US Government carte blanche w/r/t
>> >> > detaining anyone they deem a suspicious character.   That is
>> >> > diametrically opposed to the principles upon which
the Republic was
>> >> > founded.
>> >>
>> >> Many of the current principals of this administration are
>> >> diametrically
>> >> opposed to a conservative base -  from spending, to big
government, to
>> >> imposition of freedoms. Of course one of the definitions of neo- is
> 'new
>> > and
>> >> abnormal'  so I reckon neo-con it fits.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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