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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Adam
date: 2006-03-29 22:10:04
subject: Re: `If you believe that these are full and fair trials, you believe

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Robert G Lewis wrote:
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:442ae0ec{at}w3....
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>>"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
>>news:442acf3a{at}w3....
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>>>The Germans were treated as POW's and subject to the Geneva Convention.
>>
>>As they should have been.  The same is not true for enemy combatants who
>>aren't part of a nation state's forces, aren't in uniform, and aren't
>>covered by the Geneva Convention.
>
>
> Look at the conventions. I think they have a mechanism to remove protection.
> Until then they are covered. You ( nor I ) decide who is and is not covered.
>
>
Some precedents wrt there being rules wrt "illegal combatants":
From the Nuremburg trials:

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/highcmnd5.htm

"Another affidavit which sheds light on the relations between the
Wehrmacht and the SS at the top level with respect to anti-partisan warfare
(3711-PS) is sworn to by Wilhelm Scheidt, a retired captain of the German
Army who worked in the War History Section of OKW from 1941 to 1945:"

""The severity and cruelty with which the intrinsically
diabolical partisan warfare was conducted by the Russians had already
resulted in Draconian laws being issued by Hitler for its conduct. These
orders, which were passed on to the troops through the OKW and OKH, were
equally applicable to army troops as well as to those of the SS and police.
There was absolutely no difference in the manner in which these two
components carried on this warfare. Army soldiers were exactly as
embittered against the enemy as those of the SS and police. As a result of
this embitterment orders were ruthlessly carried out by both components, a
thing which was also quite in keeping with Himmler's desires or intentions.
As proof of this the order of the OKW and OKH can be adduced, which
directed that all captured partisans, for instance such as Jews, agents,
and political commissars, should without delay be handed over by the troops
to the SD for special treatment. This order also contained the provision
that in anti-partisan warfare no prisoners except the above named be taken.
That anti-partisan warfare was carried on by army troops mercilessly and to
every extreme I know as the result of discussions with army troop leaders,
for instance with General Herzog, Commander of the XXXVIII Army Corps and
with his chief of staff, Colonel Pamberg in the General Staff, both of whom
support my opinion. Today it is clear to me that anti-partisan warfare
gradually became an excuse for the systematic annihilation of Jewry and
Slavism."

& that's just the eastern front. Then there was the balkans, the low
countries, France etc.

But hey 9-11 changed everythaaang

Heck the UK has been fighting "illegal combatants" from London to
Malaya from 45 till....ohhh right we still are....

Imagine all those bloody Poles engaging in illegal combatant behaviour 60
years before in Warsaw. Thank God they were rightly suppressed by the SS
& other forces of law & order. OK so warsaw was nearly levelled but
hey that's colateral damage for you.

Adam

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