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to: George Sherwood
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-03-30 18:54:50
subject: Re: `If you believe that these are full and fair trials, you believe th

From: "Rich Gauszka" 


"George Sherwood"  wrote in message
news:pan.2006.03.30.23.36.01.729291{at}beernabeer.com...
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:32:06 +0200, Phil Payne wrote:
>
>>> > How many reports of car bombs causing major civilian casualties did
>>> > you
>> hear
>>> > of while Saddam was in power?
>>>
>>> Of course not, they were just murdered by Saddam.  But then again you
>>> don't believe that happened.
>>
>> No, I don't.  There's an amazing lack of embittered relatives.  Think
>> back
>> to the walls of pictures of missing loved ones in Argentina, Chile and
>> after
>> the tsunami.
>>
>> Seen such a wall in Baghdad?
>
> I have seen this reasoning from you before.  IMO, it doesn't hold water.
> The situations are completely different.  These people in Iraq didn't
> disappear like in South America or like in a tsunami.  They were taken
> away by Saddam and the people know what happen to them.  I have seen
> grieving relatives going through mass graves and trying to what remains of
> their loved ones.  This is documented, you just choose to ignore it.
>
> George

Even Amnesty International ( No lover of the Bush Administration )
acknowledges mass graves and missing loved ones in Iraq.  Here's a UK link
for Phil

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/action/iraq/massgraves.shtml

Over the past 20 years, Amnesty International has collected information on
around 17,000 cases of 'disappearances' - but the actual figure may be much
higher.

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