"Deloptes"  wrote

| It is not an injection. The server can not inject anything in clients HTML
| unless there is something in the HTML that would pull the "injection" and
| this is most likely the JavaScript code.

  That's what ASP and PHP are for. I use PHP
to customize the webpage for IE vs other browsers,
for example. The page code you'd see would be the
version for your browser. That's very common. These
days a lot of sniffing often goes on. That's what
much of the privacy problem is about.

  Javascript can do some of that. For example, an
iframe with script calling in google/doubleclick can
check your ID against Google's spyware booty, set
a cookie, retrieve cookies, and decide whether to
show you an ad for golf balls, shoes, kayaks, or jewelry.
But the server-side includes, if any, happen first. The
javascript is client-side.

  There also seem to be a lot of pages generated on
the spot from backend databases. And there are
operations like Wix where the page you get is little more
than a JSON shopping list, requiring javascript, which
then calls the Wix servers to build out the page.

 So there's all of that. But there's certainly a lot of
server-side includes that are neither push nor pull.
They're at the GET level.

   I think you're right, though,
in general. It's the script in the page that's making the
mess when you visit Yahoo. I use a HOSTS file, CSS
customizing in Firefox userContent.css, and I
generally disable script. I never see ads or moving
elements. I've never blocked ads. I just don't allow the
script that shows them, nor do I allow connections
to the servers. (But I don't block includes. That's not
possible, except insofar as spoofing things like userAgent
can get you a different page.)

  But you also need to be honest with yourself. It's
not honest to say Yahoo's crap is of no use to the
consumer. Yahoo is not making webpages for your sake.
They're trying to make money. Without the ads there's
no Yahoo. The real question is why are you using
spyware, freebie webmail in the first place? You can't
afford a few dollars a month for a domain or real email?
It's your choice. But you only fool yourself if you use
that spyware crap and then complain about it.

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