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to: Gary Britt
from: Adam
date: 2006-03-29 21:43:48
subject: Re: `If you believe that these are full and fair trials, you believe

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Gary Britt wrote:
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:442acf3a{at}w3....
>
>>The Germans were treated as POW's and subject to the Geneva Convention.
>
>
> As they should have been.  The same is not true for enemy combatants who
> aren't part of a nation state's forces, aren't in uniform, and aren't
> covered by the Geneva Convention.
>
>

Ditto all partisans since the year 0.

So the SS anti-partisan actions which landed many SS in gaol or on the end
of a noose were actually right.

4 legs good 2 legs better eh Napoleon?

>
>>They
>>were also released.
>
>
> After a cessation of hostilities.  Enemy combatants will be released when
> the terrorists unconditionally surrender just like the Germans were released
> when Germany unconditionally surrendered.  The congress is free to declare
> victory and cancel their declaration of war any time they wish, which would
> also be another way for these enemy combatants to be released.  Just elect
> enough surrender monkeys to make the vote happen.
>
>

When did the US unconditionally surrender to North Vietnam?

>
>>They were treated well enough that they became if not
>>friends then at least not enemies. Wonder if ANY of the current detainees
>>will feel that way.
>
>
>
> That's already happened many times over.  Further, we treat them far better
> than any muslim country treats its criminals and other prisoners.  We also
> don't execute them for not converting to christianity.
>
>

According to your gov & ours there are lots of muslim countries which
are perfectly safe to send people to. Are you calling Bush & Blair
liars?


>
>>WWII was also a war between nations. This is a 'war' on a tactic.
>
>
> Tactics don't have bombs; hierachical structures; world wide networks of
> funding.  You're just spouting bullsit that is not based in reality or any
> understanding of what is happening and what we are facing.  Again congress
> can declare the war over and terminate its declaration of war any time it
> likes.  Should they share your concerns.
>

They will eventually. But till then it's in far to many people's interests
to keep it going. The longer it goes on the more the PRC, Russia & the
other major powers have to point to when Americans act all pretend
concerned over some Belarussians banged up for long periods for threatening
national security etc.

>
>>How many of the detainees were caught on a battle field and how many were
>>just picked up ? If the statements are correct then this person doesn't
>>appear to have been picked up on a battlefield where US Troops were
>
> anyway.
>
> He admits he was on the battlefield with Bin Laden as Bin Laden's personal
> driver and one of his bodyguards.  That fact is NOT in question.  The
> battlefield for this war is world wide by the way.
>

Chuckle. So everyone is "on the battlefield" thus proving the mil
lawyers contention. You are "on the battlefield" right now &
as such your liberty is not a matter of right anymore but one of executive
fiat.

Get used to it but please don't pretend to be all horrified when some
"democrap" president uses the powers coz they're there to be used
& you're a combatant right now. Act against the Gov & you'll be a
hostile combatant. No matter where you live & no matter if you're a US
citizen or not.

Gee just like Belarus or the PRC.

Ah the wonders of the globalization of national security enforcement.

Adam

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