From: "Rich Gauszka" 


"Adam"  wrote in message
news:442ceeee{at}w3....
> Rich Gauszka wrote:
>> "George Sherwood"  wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.03.30.23.36.01.729291{at}beernabeer.com...
>>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:32:06 +0200, Phil Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> How many reports of car bombs causing major
civilian casualties did
>>>>>> you
>>>> hear
>>>>>> of while Saddam was in power?
>>>>> Of course not, they were just murdered by Saddam.  But
then again you
>>>>> don't believe that happened.
>>>> No, I don't.  There's an amazing lack of embittered
relatives.  Think
>>>> back
>>>> to the walls of pictures of missing loved ones in
Argentina, Chile and
>>>> after
>>>> the tsunami.
>>>>
>>>> Seen such a wall in Baghdad?
>>> I have seen this reasoning from you before.  IMO, it doesn't hold water.
>>> The situations are completely different.  These people in Iraq didn't
>>> disappear like in South America or like in a tsunami.  They were taken
>>> away by Saddam and the people know what happen to them.  I have seen
>>> grieving relatives going through mass graves and trying to what remains
>>> of
>>> their loved ones.  This is documented, you just choose to ignore it.
>>>
>>> George
>>
>> Even Amnesty International ( No lover of the Bush Administration )
>> acknowledges mass graves and missing loved ones in Iraq.  Here's a UK
>> link for Phil
>>
>> http://www.amnesty.org.uk/action/iraq/massgraves.shtml
>>
>> Over the past 20 years, Amnesty International has collected information
>> on around 17,000 cases of 'disappearances' - but the actual figure may be
>> much higher.
>>
>>
>
> Shrug. It's happening right now. OK so it's SCIRI instead of Baath but
> BFD.
>
> However given it is happening now & given the importance placed on this by
> the US one could presume a level f complicity in it wrt the US mil.
>
> Or it was not something which really bothers the mils & pols but they
> thought it would sound good in terms of justifying a war of aggression.
>
> Adam

I don't disagree that it's happening now or that it was one of the
propaganda items used to convince that this war was 'righteous'.. My post
was only meant as a reference that it happened in the past and that there
were 'embittered relatives'. I don't know if the current 'embittered
relatives' exceed the Saddam 'embittered relatives' yet.

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