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to: Adam
from: Gary Wiltshire
date: 2006-04-05 19:56:38
subject: Re: `If you believe that these are full and fair trials, you believe th

From: "Gary Wiltshire" 

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:38:01 -0400, Adam  wrote:

>
>>> It's still happening now. & there are US troops on the
ground (you may
>>> have noticed that). So exactly where does that place the US? Are they
>>> accomplices to murder/torture rooms?
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>  You show me one prison devoted to holding and executing children,
>> slimeball.
>>
>
> Nah they chuck them in with their elders
>
> http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-salam201205.htm
>
> http://www.washtimes.com/world/20051116-121614-5775r_page2.htm
>
> There are others from different times & places.
>
> http://www.sundayherald.com/43796
>
> "A Sunday Herald investigation has discovered that coalition forces are
> holding more than 100 children in jails such as Abu Ghraib. Witnesses
> claim that the detainees ƒ “ some as young as 10 ƒ “ are also being
> subjected to rape and torture
> By Neil Mackay
>
>
> It was early last October that Kasim Mehaddi Hilas says he witnessed the
> rape of a boy prisoner aged about 15 in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison
> in Iraq. ƒ œThe kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors
> with sheets,ƒ  he said in a statement given to investigators probing
> prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib. ƒ œThen, when I heard the screaming I
> climbed the door ƒ | and I saw [the soldierƒ ™s name is deleted] who was
> wearing a military uniform.ƒ  Hilas, who was himself threatened with
> being sexually assaulted in Abu Graib, then describes in horrific detail
> how the soldier raped ƒ œthe little kidƒ .
>
> In another witness statement, passed to the Sunday Herald, former
> prisoner Thaar Salman Dawod said: ƒ œ[I saw] two boys naked and they were
> cuffed together face to face and [a US soldier] was beating them and a
> group of guards were watching and taking pictures and there was three
> female soldiers laughing at the prisoners. The prisoners, two of them,
> were young.ƒ 
>
> Itƒ ™s not certain exactly how many children are being held by coalition
> forces in Iraq, but a Sunday Herald investigation suggests there are up
> to 107. Their names are not known, nor is where they are being kept, how
> long they will be held or what has happened to them during their
> detention."
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4339511.stm
>
> "hildren as young as 11 years old were held at Abu Ghraib, the Iraqi
> prison at the centre of the US prisoner abuse scandal, official
> documents reveal.
>
> Brig Gen Janis Karpinski, formerly in charge of the jail, gave details
> of young people and women held there.
>
> Her assertion was among documents obtained via legal action by the
> American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
>
> The Pentagon has admitted juveniles were among the detainees, but said
> no child was subject to any abuse.
>
> Brig Gen Karpinski made her remarks in an interview with a general
> investigating the abuses at the prison. "
>
>
> But hey it's not like anyone ever accused you of being well informed.
>
> Adam

These problems are NOT equivalent to Saddam's deathcamps for tykes.  I
assume there are no juveniles currently held in your jails?

--
Gary Wiltshire

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